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I like how statevar sounds with pad. it produces really soft and gentle
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Anton

2016-03-31 19:59 GMT+03:00 Rory Walsh <[log in to unmask]>:

> Here's my simple Cabbage VST. it's very nice to be able to quicly hear the
> difference between all these filters. Thanks again Anton!
>
> On 31 March 2016 at 17:52, Rory Walsh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Ok, I figure it out ;)
>>
>> On 31 March 2016 at 17:45, Rory Walsh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Ha, I'm almost done implementing the dub-step filter examples as a
>>> Cabbage instrument. I'm just curious as to what iCoeff and giSpb control?
>>> I'd like to add some controls for them, but would like to know more about
>>> them first!
>>>
>>> On 31 March 2016 at 17:38, Peter Burgess <[log in to unmask]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice one Anton! That's pretty damn useful.
>>>>
>>>> I'm also working on something in Cabbage that might be of use here.
>>>> I'm (hopefully) making a super flexible vst that'll help me develop
>>>> instruments for my app quicker. I only started using Cabbage today, so
>>>> it's early days, but so far I have a sawtooth wave going through a
>>>> selectable filter, and a reverb unit (the selectable filter being the
>>>> focus of my work so far). If anyone does try it out, it's mostly just
>>>> lowpass filters implemented so far, and any that aren't implemented
>>>> don't have controls, so you'll spot them.
>>>>
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Rory Walsh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> > Great stuff Anton. Thanks for sharing these. I'm going to take a look
>>>> later
>>>> > when I get a chance.
>>>> >
>>>> > On 31 March 2016 at 14:21, Anton Kholomiov <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> @Joachim
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I've encoded it in Csound. You can find the comparison of Csound
>>>> filters
>>>> >> on three expamples:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> * dubstep bass sound
>>>> >>
>>>> >> * pad sound
>>>> >>
>>>> >> * polysynth sound
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hopefully it can be useful for someone interested in csound filters.
>>>> maybe
>>>> >> for FLOSS manual too.
>>>> >> Feel free to change everything.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The files can be rendered in two ways:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ; plays back live
>>>> >> i "PlayAll" 0 0 0.35
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ; records everything to wav files (one per filter)
>>>> >> i "DumpAll" 0 0 0.35
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2016-03-22 0:56 GMT+03:00 joachim heintz <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> great.  it's allright if you send me a preliminary version; i can
>>>> then
>>>> >>> adapt it to fit into the floss manual.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>         joachim
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 21/03/16 20:39, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Then I need to translate my code to readable csound code.
>>>> >>>> Ok, I'll try to do. Maybe next weekend.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 2016-03-20 22:05 GMT+03:00 Rory Walsh <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>     I look forward to those.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>     On 20 Mar 2016 16:00, "Dr. Richard Boulanger"
>>>> >>>>     <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>         Great plan.  I am trying to push everything from
>>>> csounds.com
>>>> >>>>         <http://csounds.com> over to the new site - which I love.
>>>> >>>>         I "finally" have all the videos from the Csound Conference
>>>> at
>>>> >>>>         Berklee (at long last) and plan to
>>>> >>>>         post these so that Csounders can enjoy and learn from
>>>> them.  And
>>>> >>>>         many other things. All happening
>>>> >>>>         over the next months.  -dB
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>         On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Rory Walsh <
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>         <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>             I thought we may use the new Csound site actually. We
>>>> need
>>>> >>>>             to start building up content on it. A clean embedded
>>>> player
>>>> >>>>             would be nice.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>             On 20 Mar 2016 14:30, "Dr. Richard Boulanger"
>>>> >>>>             <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                 Excellent idea to "share the sounds" via
>>>> Csounds.com.
>>>> >>>>                 Happy to work on that.  Dr.B.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                 On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Rory Walsh
>>>> >>>>                 <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                     A .CSD would be great. It would also be nice to
>>>> >>>>                     share the sound samples at csound.com
>>>> >>>>                     <http://csound.com>, a large catalogue of
>>>> sounds
>>>> >>>>                     would be nice.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                     On 20 Mar 2016 10:52, "joachim heintz"
>>>> >>>>                     <[log in to unmask] <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>                     wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                         a csd: yes
>>>> >>>>                         with different filters: yes
>>>> >>>>                         wav-files: the output does not matter;
>>>> usually
>>>> >>>>                         we use -o dac.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                         On 20/03/16 05:35, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             Do you need a csd that produces
>>>> wav-files
>>>> >>>>                             with different filters?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             2016-03-20 1:00 GMT+03:00 joachim
>>>> heintz
>>>> >>>>                             <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                  hi anton -
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                  i think this would be very useful
>>>> to
>>>> >>>>                             include in the floss manual.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                  what is your csd file?  could we
>>>> code a
>>>> >>>>                             (not toooo long) csd which
>>>> >>>>                                  compares the different filters in
>>>> a
>>>> >>>>                             similar way?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                  best -
>>>> >>>>                                           joachim
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                  On 18/03/16 10:02, Anton Kholomiov
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                      Another example of using
>>>> Csound
>>>> >>>>                             filters. This time in dubstep
>>>> >>>>                                      context
>>>> >>>>                                      and with some other filters.
>>>> >>>>                                      Includes: moogladder, moogvcf,
>>>> >>>>                             lpf18, bqrez, lowres, mvclpf1,
>>>> >>>>                                      mvclpf2,
>>>> >>>>                                      mvclpf3, clfilt, butterlp,
>>>> rezzy,
>>>> >>>>                             svfilter, vlowres, statevar.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hamb1811hv1gjk/dub-filters.zip?dl=0
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                      The original example for
>>>> moogladder
>>>> >>>>                             was coded by Jacob Joaquin
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                      Anton
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                      2016-03-17 23:39 GMT+03:00
>>>> Anton
>>>> >>>>                             Kholomiov
>>>> >>>>                                      <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>                                      <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                      <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>>:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                           Audio examples of using
>>>> Csound
>>>> >>>>                             filters to implement a
>>>> >>>>                                      PAD-timbre:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhfpudm46236ozl/csound-filters-pads.zip?dl=0
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                           there are dry and
>>>> processed
>>>> >>>>                             with reverb audio files.
>>>> >>>>                                           So that you can listen
>>>> to the
>>>> >>>>                             difference between various
>>>> >>>>                                      csound filters
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                           2016-03-17 22:41
>>>> GMT+03:00
>>>> >>>>                             Victor Lazzarini
>>>> >>>>                                           <
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>                                      <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                      <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>>:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                               moogvcf4 segfaults?
>>>> Please
>>>> >>>>                             open an issue for us to
>>>> >>>>                                      investigate.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                               Victor Lazzarini
>>>> >>>>                                               Dean of Arts, Celtic
>>>> >>>>                             Studies, and Philosophy
>>>> >>>>                                               Maynooth University
>>>> >>>>                                               Ireland
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                               On 17 Mar 2016, at
>>>> 19:26,
>>>> >>>>                             Anton Kholomiov
>>>> >>>>                                               <
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                      <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>                                      <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                      <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>>
>>>> >>>>                                               wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                   @ Victor
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                   I've got
>>>> performance
>>>> >>>>                             scores for various filters.
>>>> >>>>                                                   I've implemented
>>>> a
>>>> >>>>                             pad-instrument with sequence of
>>>> >>>>                                          two filters
>>>> >>>>                                                   of the same type.
>>>> >>>>                                                   The results
>>>> shows CPU
>>>> >>>>                             usage in percent for 8 notes
>>>> >>>>                                          chord (it
>>>> >>>>                                                   uses 16
>>>> instances of
>>>> >>>>                             the given filter):
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                   ~~~
>>>> >>>>                                                   moogladder  --
>>>> 60 %
>>>> >>>>                                                   lpf18
>>>>  --
>>>> >>>> 33
>>>> >>>>                                                   bqrez
>>>> -- 27
>>>> >>>>                                                   moogvcf       --
>>>> 26
>>>> >>>>                                                   clfilt
>>>> >>>> -- 19
>>>> >>>>                                                   lowres
>>>>  -- 17
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                   ; new mvc filters
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                   mvclpf1
>>>>  -- 30
>>>> >>>>                                                   mvclpf2
>>>>  -- 32
>>>> >>>>                                                   mvclpf3
>>>>  -- 45
>>>> >>>>                                                   mvclpf4
>>>>  --
>>>> >>>>                             segfaults
>>>> >>>>                                                   ~~~
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                   Maybe I can open
>>>> issue
>>>> >>>>                             for optimization of
>>>> >>>>                                          moogladder. The
>>>> >>>>                                                   sound quality is
>>>> very
>>>> >>>> good
>>>> >>>>                                                   but if the tanh
>>>> would
>>>> >>>>                             be replaced with table Maybe
>>>> >>>>                                          I would
>>>> >>>>                                                   post a look up
>>>> it can
>>>> >>>>                             also speed up performance.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                   I think I can
>>>> post a
>>>> >>>>                             sound examples later.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                   To my ears
>>>> moogladder,
>>>> >>>>                             moogvcf, mvclpfNs produce
>>>> >>>>                                          soft mellow
>>>> >>>>                                                   sounds
>>>> >>>>                                                   clfilt, lowres
>>>> are
>>>> >>>>                             more harsh but it reminds me
>>>> >>>>                                          some examples
>>>> >>>>                                                   of oldschool
>>>> dance
>>>> >>>> timbres
>>>> >>>>                                                   I like lowres a
>>>> lot it
>>>> >>>>                             has it's own interesting
>>>> >>>>                                          character.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                   Anton
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                   2016-03-17 15:09
>>>> >>>>                             GMT+03:00 Dr. Richard Boulanger
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>>:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                       thanks.  yes.
>>>> >>>>                             that might be the one.  nice.
>>>> >>>>                                          but.. not at
>>>> >>>>
>>>>  "comprehensive" as
>>>> >>>>                             filter compare - which is really
>>>> >>>>
>>>>  comprehensive (and
>>>> >>>>                             will need to be expanded
>>>> >>>>                                          now, but awesome.)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                       I did also
>>>> like
>>>> >>>>                             his formant filter explorer
>>>> >>>>                                          instrument too
>>>> >>>>                                                       - very
>>>> versatile
>>>> >>>>                             and impressive.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                       On Thu, Mar
>>>> 17,
>>>> >>>>                             2016 at 1:55 AM, Anton Kholomiov
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                           @ Dr B
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                           Maybe
>>>> Rory
>>>> >>>>                             mentions this effect
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> http://iainmccurdy.org/CsoundRealtimeExamples/Cabbage/Effects/MultiReverb.csd
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>  2016-03-17
>>>> >>>>                             4:23 GMT+03:00 Dr. Richard Boulanger
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>>:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                               cant
>>>> find
>>>> >>>>                             multiverb
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                                                               On
>>>> Wed,
>>>> >>>>                             Mar 16, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Rory Walsh
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>  His
>>>> >>>>                             multi-verb instrument is great
>>>> >>>>                                          too ;)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>  On 17
>>>> >>>>                             March 2016 at 00:28, Dr. Richard
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               Boulanger <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               Iain's compare filters
>>>> >>>>                                          instrument is
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               awesome.  -dB
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>    On
>>>> >>>>                             Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:57
>>>> >>>>                                          PM, Peter
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               Burgess
>>>> >>>>                                          <
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               Cheers for the Ian McCurdy
>>>> >>>>                                          link! I'll
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               check that out tomorrow
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at
>>>> >>>>                                          9:52 PM,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               Victor Lazzarini
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               > It is expensive. I
>>>> >>>>                                          suppose we could
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               exchange the calls for
>>>> >>>>                                          table lookups.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               > Victor Lazzarini
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               > Dean of Arts, Celtic
>>>> >>>>                                          Studies, and
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               Philosophy
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               > Maynooth University
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               > Ireland
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >> On 16 Mar 2016, at
>>>> >>>>                                          19:33, jpff
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >> Just looked at
>>>> >>>>                                          moogladder opcode
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               and it loos expensive -- 8
>>>> >>>>                                          calls the
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               tanh insid the main loop.
>>>> >>>>                                          Tried
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               alittle unrolling but it
>>>> >>>>                                          made no
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               difference.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2016, Anton
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               Kholomiov wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> I've got some problems
>>>> >>>>                                          when I
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               stuck two moogladers in chain
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               toincrease the
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> order of the filter and
>>>> >>>>                                          if use
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               several of them for each
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> voice for the stereo
>>>> >>>>                                          signal and if
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               I have several voices.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> Then I can get buffer
>>>> >>>>                                          underruns.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               But when I switch to bqrez
>>>> >>>>                                          there are
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> no problems with
>>>> >>>>                                          performance. The
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               CPU load drops dramatically
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> and so drops the
>>>> >>>>                                          quality of the
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               sound :)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> So I try to investigate.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> Also there is good
>>>> >>>>                                          comparison of
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               filters at McCurdy's csound
>>>> >>>>                                          page:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>
>>>> >>>>                             http://iainmccurdy.org/csound.html
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> it's  called
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> compare_standard_filters.csd
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> 2016-03-16 17:03
>>>> >>>>                                          GMT+03:00 Rory
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               Walsh <[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                                          <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>>:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      lpf18 is one of my
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               favourites. I never noticed
>>>> >>>>                                          any CPU
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               problems
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      with moogladder,
>>>> >>>>                                          but I never
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               really looked either.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>> On 16 March 2016 at
>>>> >>>>                                          14:01, Peter
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               Burgess
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>
>>>> >>>>                                          <
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      You're right, that
>>>> >>>>                                          would be
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               useful! I was considering
>>>> >>>>                                          asking
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      a similar
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      question recently,
>>>> >>>>                                          it is a
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               very good question.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      I know they've
>>>> >>>>                                          recently
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               introduced the mvc filters,
>>>> >>>>                                          which
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      have a nice
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      analogue-like
>>>> >>>>                                          characteristic.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               But I have wondered often if
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      people have
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      any preference
>>>> >>>>                                          over the
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               unashamedly digital
>>>> >>>>                                          filters, because
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      as you
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      say, there are so
>>>> >>>>                                          many.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      I find myself often
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               defaulting to bqrez for
>>>> >>>>                                          anything other
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      than
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      lowpass filters,
>>>> >>>>                                          because it's
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               the only multi-mode filter
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      that doesn't
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      output multiple audio
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               streams, and it makes my
>>>> >>>>                                          instrument
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      less messy,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      but that's a
>>>> >>>>                                          terrible reason
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               to use a filter! I should
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      really spend
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      more time
>>>> >>>>                                          comparing different
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               filters in different
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      situations and get
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      to know them better.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      On Wed, Mar 16,
>>>> >>>>                                          2016 at 1:43
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               PM, Anton Kholomiov
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>
>>>> >>>>                                          <
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
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>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      > There is a
>>>> >>>>                                          notion that the
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               most important thing in the
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      synthesizer is a
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      > filter.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      > The quality of
>>>> >>>>                                          the filter
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               determines the specific
>>>> >>>>                                          voice of
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      your synth.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      > Csound has wide
>>>> >>>>                                          range of
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               filters it's easy to get
>>>> >>>>                                          lost in
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      them.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      > So what is your
>>>> >>>>                                          experience
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               with filters?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      > Which are good
>>>> >>>>                                          for pads and
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               which are good for leads. If
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      you have any
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      > experience with that
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      > and interested
>>>> >>>>                                          in sharing
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               it I think that this
>>>> >>>>                                          information
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      can be useful
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      > for many csound
>>>> >>>>                                          users.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      > 2016-03-16 16:34
>>>> >>>>                                          GMT+03:00
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               Anton Kholomiov
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>
>>>> >>>>                                          <
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>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
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>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>                             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>>:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> I like the
>>>> >>>>                                          moogladder
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               filter a lot. But
>>>> >>>>                                          unfortunately it
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      uses a lot of
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> CPU.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> It's super cool
>>>> >>>>                                          filter but
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               it's not the thing you are
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      going to use on
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> weaker PCs or
>>>> >>>>                                          mobiles.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> It's easy to
>>>> >>>>                                          hit the top
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               of performance with several of
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      them.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> Is there a good
>>>> >>>>                                          filter
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               that is close to moogladder but
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      not so heavy on
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> resources?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> Another
>>>> >>>>                                          question on filters:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> What filter is
>>>> >>>>                                          close to
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               Massive NI low pass 2 or
>>>> >>>>                                          low pass
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      4 filter in
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> Csound?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> Thanks,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >> Anton
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>                               >>>      >
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