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Hi Barry,

I hope it is just hysteria -- but I suspect something deeper at work.

Assange has a publishing function/role as potentially powerful as Rupert Murdoch et al -- but he (Assange) is not in, or under, the control of those social/cultural forces that keep the likes of Rupert under 'control' and the public out of control.

Being outside the USA media system I find these type of video images/voices rather puzzling. We all have our domestic media/propaganda systems at work -- but do people in the USA actually see the core issues at play?

I mean, it almost seems like a civil war is emerging between 'suppression-ists' and 'open-ists' (to coin two meaningless words). I guess the interesting issue is whether the trends are towards one way or the other in the emerging generations.

This one was also a surprise to me: " the "Electronic Robin Hood". He's a 28-year-old man. He's currently in federal prison here in New York. His name is Jeremy Hammond. "

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=9139

Russell

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:38 AM, BARRY A CLEMSON <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Russell,

Lots of hysteria about Wikileaks ... my own opinion is that Assange is a hero who has done nothing qualitatively different than major newspapers have done. Assange just did more of it and caused corresponding more upset among the powers that be.


On Nov 28, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Russell C wrote:

Democracy @ Work?


Are these the voices and faces of a system of democratic openness and transparency, or of a publishing control system?

It appears the issue is the 'system' leaks -- not that people in the system are doing wrong in the first place and some others in those same systems who witness these acts are using the technology to make this known at a public level.

Believe it or not.
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