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I am very interested in this as one of my PhD students is looking at the general topic of Emergence and how nature organises it self bottom - up

What you need are agents with simple rules but lots of them communicating.( eg ants, bees )   You then get self regulation.  I think this is what Stafford and Gordon were after ( before their time as usual)

I just wondered if anyone had any good modern links to this type of work

Alfredo

---- Original Message -----

From: BARRY A CLEMSON <[log in to unmask]>

Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:01 pm

Subject: Re: vision and its source

> Stafford and Gordon did a variety of experiments with biological
> and
> chemical computers. At one point they used fireflies to regulate a
>
> steel works. I remember Gordon saying that the major problem was
> that
> the fireflies did not live long enough and they couldn't get
> enough
> firelfies.
>
> Barry
> On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Alfredo Moscardini wrote:
>
> > I was reading the latest book about the British Cyberneticians
> and
> > there was an interesting paragraph where it said that Stafford
> was
> > experimenting with his fishpond as a means of control of a
> factory,
> > Gordon Pask was also experimenting with some mechanical devices.
> >
> > Does anyone have any further info on this?
> >
> > It says that Vanilla remembers him experimenting
> >
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