Interesting.

The leader of the cult Heaven's Gate told his members that they had reached the post human state and were ready to join the mother ship that was travelling with the Hale Bop comet. So they all committed suicide. 


From: Roger Duck <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, 18 March, 2010 10:56:34
Subject: autopoiesis and information flows

I am puzzling over the following from Katherine Hayles’ book (How we Became Posthuman):

 

P10: “In a sense, autopoiesis turns the cybernetic paradigm inside out. Its central premise – that systems are informationally closed – radically alters the idea of the informational feedback loop, for the loop no longer functions to connect a system to its environment. In the autopoietic view, no information crosses the boundary separating the system from its environment.”

 

Again: “no information crosses the boundary separating the system from its environment.” This is a strong statement! Is it consistent with the VSM view? I tend to think of the loops between S1 and the environment, and even more so between S4 and the environment, as dealing with “finding things out about what is going on out there”. And Stafford’s second and third principles of organisation mention “channels carrying information”.

 

Anyone want to help me though this conceptual jungle?

 

Roger D

 

 

 

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