Dai - I'm not sure who you are, but I totally go along with what you say, and, more importantly, with what you say about which doors we attempt to push,

Hello, and best wishes


Roger
On 3 Mar 2010, at 16:34, Dai Griffiths wrote:

I agree, and appreciate the judiciously placed scare quotes around 'the others'.

A friend of mine when in Spain was shaken to be rescued from a car breakdown and subsequently fed by a crew of friendly passers by who happily announced "We're fascists".
The Internet makes that kind of contact much more likely, by removing many of the filters which operate in day to day life (it is typical that my friends contact happened after a breakdown in normal activity). But, for better or for worse, the Internet also reduces the social damping on interactions, including on insults and provocation.

It's not clear to me how this balance of "more contact with the other /  less social control over provocation" will work out.
Will the Internet
a) help us to see that 'the other' is not simply an evil entity that should be destroyed, but a human being with whom we have a potential/actual problem that needs to be resolved? (Uncomfortable for all of us to some degree, as Roger suggests).
Or
b) will it be an flame war that grows until it reaches critical mass, when it spills out into unthinking destructive action?

I see both as possible outcomes. So more practically the question is, what interventions could be made to nudge the Internet towards a).

Dai


On 3 March 2010 16:42, Roger Harnden <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The interesting thing about the future of internet is that it will cut through ALL OF OUR prejudices.

Sure, the red-neck hill billy will have a voice, as will the Islamic fundamentalist, as will the atheist, as will Roger Harnden - but ALL of them will be in the mix, and only some of them will be attractive to 'all of the people all of the time' (Bob Dylan).

The only ones scared of it should be those of us - and that side of EACH of us - who feel uneasy about co-existence with 'the other'.
And, every State and every Prejudice, will be scared by this and will attempt to diffuse the possibility that all ' the others' have a voice.

And - Frank - this is not because of any intrinsic 'big brother' or 'expertise - but because the Web is uncontrollable except in 'local pockets'.

The Web itself is not a vantage or pulpit, but a CHANNEL or an order of magnitude greater than any that might have been conceived by McCluhan. Pulpits and expertises will hustle each other for space in this medium, but each will fail - or, more accurately, will rise, variously dominate, and disappear in an endless flow.

Roger

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