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Javier,

There's a duplication in 2 (to do with memory).

You cover a lot of ground, Javier, and there are some nuggets.

As a mode of communication to stimulate ongoing curiousity it's a  
great model.

 From the 'cybernetic' point of view, I have some queries (but these  
don't negate the positive feelings above).


Javier, I'm not sure it's right to say that neurons or the brain are  
'compulsive model builders'.  In my understanding, it's better to  
grasp the nettle that - in terms of information - the brain can only  
construct models (hence 'organisational closure'). If we discount the  
hypothesis that the brain is an input/output device dealing with  
representation and symbolic manipulation, then what we are left with  
is the endless cycling, composition and decomposition of models. And,  
indeed, you do refer to this. So, our bench marks are 'models' of  
chairness (in a platonic sense), rather than particular instances of a  
chair. And the particular instance we 'bump into' in the course of our  
interactions, becomes associated or not to such 'benchmarks' (the  
essence of Maturana's distinction between 'organisation' and  
'structure'.

A second niggle (though I am not saying this detracts from the story  
you tell) is granting an individual neuron an 'identity'. An  
individual neuron is a switch which fires or does not fire. It is the  
architecture that transforms this mundanity into the miraculous.

Identity emerges with a very much higher level of recursion of a S5,  
as I'm sure you agree.  But the language you use (which, indeed, is  
very child friendly), suggests each neuron is a tiny personality  
instead of a dumb switch. The miracle we seek to explain or suggest,  
is how the behavioural level miraculous emerges from the dumb  
interactions at the neuronal level.

Or have I got this wrong?

But, a mammoth effort, Javier,

Roger





On 30 Mar 2010, at 13:34, Javier Livas wrote:

> Dear Friends:
>
> I have posted in YouTUBE a video with young children in mind. It  
> contains an make-believe interview with a neuron at the Reticular  
> Activiting System.
>
> I am taking a big chance with this one. If it is not up to your  
> standards I will have to redo the whole thing, or fix it if you tell  
> me how.
>
> The video is a bit long so it takes 4 parts to say everything that  
> needs to be said.
>
> This is part of my effort to popularize the VSM structure and the  
> brain's too.
>
> REMEMBER: It is intended for kids, therefore the animations, voices  
> and pictures used.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Javier Livas
>
> If you approve of it, pass it on to some elementary school teacher.
>
> Captain of the Brain Explorer Submarine:
>
> 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUgV9IO0blA
> 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL3jlWPGTc4
> 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFQEeVzMab0
> 4.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfOaQKgXU34
>
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