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Harold, you are absolutely on target. For it to become 21st century,  
it has to BE 21st century - in the presentation of ideas and images  
used, in the language, and in its modes of expression.

Roger
On 12 Dec 2008, at 13:36, Garderen, Harold van wrote:

> Hi Roger,
>
> You are right, succesrate are low, but on the other hand, with 30  
> people one can do a lot.
>
> A colleage of mine started his blog over a year ago and now has a  
> reader list of >70 of people all over the world he didn't know before.
>
> I would love the VSM community to make more use of publicly visible  
> platforms to improve the chance that more people discover.
>
> For that use of mundane language is needed. I'm not happy with my  
> own blog in that respect.
>
> Harold
>
> Now blogging at http://fragmentedliving.blogspot.com/
>
>
> From: Forum dedicated to the work of Stafford Beer [mailto:[log in to unmask] 
> ] On Behalf Of Roger Harnden
> Sent: vrijdag 12 december 2008 14:10
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: informative Blog
>
> Yes, I can see, Harold
>
> However as you and I both know from the literature (Weinberger,  
> Tapscott, Shirky and others), though potential visibiity and  
> audience is huge, actual success is pretty dismal.
>
> I think the main thing is to hang on in there, and gradually get  
> linked to a wider and wider, but sometimes focused, audience.  
> However, Harold, it surely does get frustrating talking to oneself!!!
>
> Mind, I think I prefer this mode of expression to monologue  
> authorship. At least here, there is a sort of reality check, or even  
> contribution/dislocation whihc can be creative. Whereas traditional  
> authorship didn't have such safety vales,
>
> Roger
> On 12 Dec 2008, at 12:54, Garderen, Harold van wrote:
>
>> Thanks Roger,
>>
>> I can do with some visitors and lots of comments to react on:-)  
>> Current traffic is at 1 a day (googles daily check). So I'm writing  
>> to myself.
>>
>> What I'm trying to do is raise interest in Beer c.s., + OL (Wenger  
>> c.s.) and Sense-making (Snowden c.s) in the hope to attract an  
>> active crowd to work with.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> From: Forum dedicated to the work of Stafford Beer [mailto:[log in to unmask] 
>> ] On Behalf Of Roger Harnden
>> Sent: vrijdag 12 december 2008 13:46
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: informative Blog
>>
>> Harold's blog. Well worth a look,
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> http://fragmentedliving.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12 Dec 2008, at 12:00, Garderen, Harold van wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Roger,
>>>
>>> Did you write the Quaterly?
>>>
>>> Harold
>>>
>>> Now blogging at http://fragmentedliving.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: Modeling Emergent Structure
>>>>
>>>> Very to the point, Harold,
>>>>
>>>> Roger
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