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I've noticed in the past few days that the terms viable and viability are being used by George Bush and the CEO's of the Big Three Automakers. The industry is now on a path to 'viability' based on the $14B - $17B bailout approved yesterday in the US.

How about simply:  the viable business or the viable enterprise

Alvin Toffler also used the term 'adaptive corporation'

 Joseph Truss
Abbey North Drummers / Open Futures / Team Syntegrity AG




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From: Frank <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:36:31 AM
Subject: Re: VSM4Business

 
Thanks for this Arthur.
 
Business Brain might indeed appeal to managers 
etc.
 
Frank
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From: Arthur Dijkstra 
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Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:53  AM
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How  about
Organisational  Brain
Or
Business  Brain
Or
Corporate  Brain
 
Arthur
 
Van:Forum dedicated  to the work of Stafford Beer [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Namens Joseph Truss
Verzonden: vrijdag 19 december 2008  16:46
Aan: [log in to unmask]
Onderwerp: Re: VSM4Business
 
'Operational  sustainability'
'The viability of  business - the business of viability'
'Adaptability,  sustainability, viability'
 
"Add Beer to your  bottom line!"
 
 
Joseph  Truss
Abbey North Drummers / Open Futures / Team Syntegrity  AG
 
 

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From:Paul Stokes  <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008  8:35:32 AM
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Well I'm using  'Sustainable Ops' or 'Sustainable Operations', if that's of any use to you  folks.
 
Paul
 
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Frank is that the  BOTTOM line? We do need a spanking good phrase!
 
Joseph  Truss
Abbey North Drummers / Open Futures / Team Syntegrity AG 
 
 

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From:Frank <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:00:47 PM
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Lol  or
 
Reaches the Parts  that Beer Reaches.
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From:Boris G Freesman, Q.C. 
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Sent:Thursday,  December 18, 2008 11:12 PM
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FREE  BEER?
 
Boris
 
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From:Frank 
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Sent:Thursday,  December 18, 2008 6:04 PM
Subject:Re:  VSM4Business
 
Hmm yes but  it doesn't get across the idea of an organisation being able to sense  internal imbalace and being able to self correct so to speak in the  light of knowledge of new external conditions. Thanks btw for all this  and sorry for being such a pain. 
 
I need a  title that instantly draws in the businessman/manager etc. Someone who  is suffering in a dysfunctional organisation who will go, "Wow, I must  find out more about this!" when he reads the title of the wikispace. The  title of course has to reflect very pithilly what VSM is all  about.
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From:Roger Harnden 
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Sent:Thursday,  December 18, 2008 10:46 PM
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'Organisational viability'. 
 
Roger
On 18 Dec 2008, at 22:22, Frank  wrote:


That's  one possibility except businessmen might just say "yeh, yeh, another  fad". It also doesn't address the (how I see it) kernel of VSM that  it's all about organisations being aware that something is wrong and  then responding in a corrective manner. Homeostasis of a sort, I  suppose with a dollop of coevolution. Or maybe I've got it all  wrong.
 
I'm  rereading Brain of the Firm and it's interesting how other things now  jump out of the page so to speak.
 
Frank
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From: Roger Harnden
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Sent: Thursday,  December 18, 2008 10:03 PM
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What's  wrong with Stafford's 'science of effective organisation'? 
 
Roger
On  18 Dec 2008, at 21:42, Frank wrote:


Oops  I forgot! Yeh I think Viable Systems Model is about as charismatic  as 
cold rice  pudding.

Hmm lets see. Some possible wikispace  titles

Making Your Organisation Response - Able. (Not  strictly VSM but a hook 
nonetheless.)

The  Self Aware Organisation (More on VSM lines but a little too sci  fi?)

Regards

Frank
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From: Holtham, Clive
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Sent: Thursday,  December 18, 2008 6:44 PM
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I think the term VSM is  to be avoided at all costs upfront!
Why not make the title  something more  neutral/inspirational/controversial?
Professor  Clive Holtham
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From: Frank  [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 16 December 2008  21:44
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Subject: VSM4Business
Everyone,
I  really like VSM4Business but I don't think I can change the title  of the Wiki because it will affect the URL.
 
So  I have two options:
 
1)  Scrap the existing VSMforbusiness and start with new titel. Fairly  easy as not much has been done yet
 
2)  Leave it but refer to the Wiki as VSM4Business in any emails etc.  Problem is that it could be confusing.
 
I  think I'll go for option 1 unless anyone has any ideas. I'll leave  a decision until tomorrow.
 
Frank
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