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All truth is consensual . That;s what Thomas Kuhn and Karl Popper (not  
to mention Maturana) established.

Can anyone point to a truth that is not consensual???

So, what's new?? The only thing that is new - as is the case with the  
world banking/financial crisis, is that the Emperor's clothes are  
missing and we can see his goolies.

This applies to notions of 'truth' or notions of 'accountability' or,  
indeed, 'democracy and freedom'.

Wikipedia rules, whether we like it or not, and I do.


For example,  follow stuff to do with cybernetics etc. For example,  
though there are inaccuracies about the VSM entry, any other us can do  
something about them should we wish. And, anyway, even with the  
inaccuracies, the LINKS on that entry are a fantastic start for anyone  
interested to learn something about VSM, far better than anything I  
had access to when I started a PhD in cybernetics.

Roger

On 23 Oct 2008, at 16:01, Stefan Wasilewski wrote:

> I generally find that people who criticise but don't offer an  
> alternative have a grudge and therefore to be put in one box to be  
> balanced as others are likewise accessed.
>
> Surely it's up to each and every one of us to verify the facts we  
> seek and in doing so learn accordingly: Nothing should be taken on  
> face value.
>
> Would he prefer the current filtering of information and the writing  
> of history by the winners to remain as our only sources?
>
> His profession should give a clue to viewpoint.
>
> Stefan
>
> On 23 Oct 2008, at 13:24, Frank wrote:
>
>> Dear Listm
>> http://www.technologyreview.com/web/21558/?nlid=1452&a=f
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Frank Wood
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