"Top It Off" does switch meters, but neverthless uses a "normal" of bars in the process.
As I mentioned previously, I definitely remember Willy Clancy recordings being a source for multiple tunes with odd meter changes, so the back of Paul M.'s head agrees with the back of mine.
I can respond to IRTRAD stuff requiring having to listen to recordings once I get home tonight ... meanwhile it feels like I should state the disclaimer that, as a general rule, my published work at irishtune.info is going to be much more reliable than my human-powered memory while chatting on IRTRAD (or elsewhere :).
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Mulvaney <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: irregular structures
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> Isn't the old slip jig "Top It Off " often played with an extra
> triple? At
> least I'd swear I've heard pipers play it that way; something in the
> back of
> my head says it comes from Willie Clancy's playing; that may be mere
> lore as
> I can't put my finger on a recorded instance at the moment. As in:
> ...A | Bcd A2 F DDD :|
> more or less, vrs. the expected:
> ...A | Bcd A2 F D2 :|
> (*either way* with the anacrusis-wrap to the initial "B" at the top...)
> Hmm? Just my jazz neurons firing randomly? I know that's not an
> measure count per se..
> >From: Philippe Varlet <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Irish Traditional Music List <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: irregular structures
> >Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:35:04 -0500
> >At 08:37 AM 1/30/2007 -0500, you wrote:
> >>I find it intriguing, the use of extra beats, and have heard it
> maybe only
> >>a few time in Irish music and can't recall who did it, it may have
> been on
> >>some old 78s, though I have heard it way more often on American 78s
> >>the 20s and 30s, and the players who play that old style nowadays
> like to
> >>use it at times just because it's interesting and they like the
> >>Phillipe.... I imagine you can shed some light on this? Did it
> >>in the US or over in Ireland or Scotland? Or over in US and then go
> >>Chicken or egg likely, just curious.
> >>Iris Nevins
> >Iris, I don't recall any Irish player on 78 playing a tune with extra
> >beats, except by mistake--fiddle player John Howard's botched
> >between "Toss the Feathers" and "Callan Lassies" (see Milestone at
> >Garden). I do know that crooked tunes are fairly common in
> >fiddle music, so you might be thinking of 78 recordings by Isidore
> >and the like.
> >Philippe Varlet
> >Hard-to-find imported Irish CDs
> >[log in to unmask]
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