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Hrant is a big promoter of larger than x high, smaller than cap high figures. For many typefaces that is a very good solution. I'd add medium caps of the same height so AFL-CIO, SPECTER, and UNESCO don't jump out of a page. Gunnar On Nov 18, 2003, at 1:02 AM, Adrian Cockcroft wrote: >> On Nov 17, 2003, at 6:11 AM, Michael Brady wrote: >>> But as you point out, the >>> problem arises when figures are mixed with caps or all caps, as in >>> the >>> ZIP code after the state's postal abbreviation or in serial numbers >>> of >>> various kinds. > Gunnar wrote: >> Although addresses on envelopes might call for cap-height and lining >> numerals for OCR sorting, I'd argue that hanging numerals are a bette >> choice for zip codes in most cases. > > I feel that most solutions fall short of ideal. Set the post (zip) > code in > caps with lining figures and it dominates the text block. However, set > it in > small caps with old style figures and it recedes. > > The only semi-satisfactory results seem to come from using a large > x-height > sans, where the all caps/lining figure combination doesn't overpower > the > rest of the address. > > I've pondered this many times -- what other solutions have people > arrived > at? ---- Gunnar Swanson Design Office 536 South Catalina Street Ventura, California 93001-3625 USA +1 805 667 2200 http://www.gunnarswanson.com