From: Daryl Adair <[log in to unmask]>
> As a kid growing up in Australia in the 1960s and 70s I routinely heard
> Irish jokes in the schoolyard. They were often pretty funny ... but none
> us knew why the Irish (as opposed to some other group) were the brunt of
> these jokes. . . .
"Irish Jokes" were probably invented by the British to support their view of
the Irish as lazy, drunken dolts. We had quite a bit about this topic -
which I raised - a couple of years ago on the list. The final analysis was
that the great preponderance of "Irish Jokes" are meant to ridicule and
demean the Irish. Collectively we came up with only about three or four
"pro" Irish jokes. I have them if you are interested.
> My thread, then, is the varied (and changing) contexts in which Irish
> have been 'popular'. For example, has the Irish joke been a feature of the
> American comedy scene and 'bar culture'? My understanding is that Polish
> immigrants to America have been the main focus for ridicule. . . .
"Polish jokes" were popular for only a couple of years during the 70's.
"Irish jokes", on the other hand, have been wildly popular in America since
before the turn of the last century. They has all been demeaning.
Bruce L. Jones
The Desert Hostage
The Mojave Desert - The Geographic Center of Nowhere