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CELTIC-L  December 1999

CELTIC-L December 1999

Subject:

Re: A couple of observations

From:

Tom Carroll <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Tom Carroll <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:02:07 -0600

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At 01:00 AM 12/8/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>From: Tom Carroll <[log in to unmask]>
>
>> At 07:04 PM 12/6/1999 -0800, bruce wrote:
>
>If you do not like living in a free country just say so. I'll be happy to
>start taking up a collection to buy you a one way ticket to some socialist
>police state where those things you think you like already exist. Before
>leaving it would be required, however, for you to renounce your citizenship
>and to forever stay the hell out of this free country.

No thanks.  I'll stay here and work against your political views and vote
against the candidates you support.  NRA for--me against!  Don't you love
democracy?

 You worry about your
>kiddies in a school being "cut down". WHERE were the people - the school
>officials, police or parents - who are responsible for protecting those kids
>from a madman? Like you they were hiding under their beds. You poor deluded
>coward.

I'm glad we can disagree without being disagreeable!

This is statistically less likely to happen that being struck twice
>by lightening in the same day. On the other hand two million people a year
>have their lives helped or saved outright by weapons they own, which
>assholes like you campaign to keep any mention of out of the press, keeping
>people ignorant as to the truth. You can't stand the truth so you resort to
>emotional bleating and insults? You are the fucking fruitcake you treasonous
>coward, and a damn pathetic one at that.

You have your views, and they're between you, God, and the therapist you so
desperately need.
And when you refer to me, you might use the term Commander that I earned in
my 27 years (more than half my life) of combined regular and reserve
military service, if you please.  And my regular service came during the
Vietnam War, where I was not safely holed up like George W. Bush, Pat
Buchanan, Newt Gingrich or any of the other flamers you would support.

>
>> >Those people like you, on the other hand, who advocate an abandonment of
>> >civil rights and law and who support rapists and murderers seem to fit
>the
>> >definition much more closely. Although in all fairness i do not imagine
>you
>> >are a true psychopath, you are just dangerously brainwashed.
>> >
>> Will all those who support rapists and murderers please raise your hand.
>> Anyone?  Anyone at all?  I don't see anyone.  But I did not expect to.
>
>You just did that very thing you pathetic moron.

I hoped you would explain this, but perhaps the propaganda you are using
doesn't specify, so just forget it.

 I am ashamed I have spent a
>lifetime protecting such crap as you. Like I said, if you don't like it you
>are free to leave.
>

This land is my land, this land is your land.  You do not dictate what true
patriotism or Americanism is to me or anyone else, thank God.

Listen, everyone.  I know I should have let this go, but please forgive me,
especially Ray.  I am serious in trying to let our international audience
know that what you are reading in Bruce's posts is NOT REPRESENTATIVE of all
Americans.  We are not Cowboys extolling violence and excusing mayhem in our
society.  And one day we will prevail.

In fact I imagine that Bruce is really putting all this on as an act.  I
think he is really a liberal Democrat, upset because Gore and Bradley are
too moderate. George McGovern--now there's Bruce's guy!   I think he really
supports reasonable gun control to preserve a little peace in this too
violent country.  And I further imagine that he really is mentally healthy.
Of course, I might be wrong.

Best wishes to all for a peaceful Christmas
Tom

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