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XML-L  July 1999

XML-L July 1999

Subject:

Re: unsubsribe

From:

Peter Flynn <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

General discussion of Extensible Markup Language <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 22 Jul 1999 02:01:41 +0100

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CONTENTS

   * How to subscribe to and unsubscribe from XML-L

   * Sending mail to a mailing list once you're subscribed

   * Reading the documentation

   * What to do when LISTSERV rejects your messages because your
     email address has changed since you subscribed.

   * LISTSERV has suddenly unsubscribed you for no obvious reason


Subscribing and unsubscribing

XML-L is a regular LISTSERV list, so you send commands in exactly the
same way as for any other list, by sending a message to
[log in to unmask] or to your nearest LISTSERV (any one will do,
as your request will be automatically forwarded to the right place).

If you have been told to use a different address, please mail me
privately at [log in to unmask] and tell me where you
were told this, so that I can get it corrected. There are a lot of
pages out there with some truly weird ideas about how mailing lists
work. The address XML-L-request is only used for manual requests.

To subscribe, send a 1-line mail message saying

     SUB  XML-L  forename  surname

(substituting your own names) to [log in to unmask]
You can type SUBSCRIBE in full if you wish.

To unsubscribe, send a 1-line mail message saying

     UNSUB  XML-L

to the same address. You can type UNSUBSCRIBE or SIGNOFF instead
of UNSUB if you prefer.

Don't send requests to the XML-L-request or owner-XML-L
addresses unless you want special action by a human (see final para).

Don't include signature blocks (.sig files) or any other text in your
subscription or unsubscription request messages, especially not MIME
attachments like images, visiting cards, or automatically-attached
formatting like HTML encoding or Microsoft's ms_tnef files.


Sending mail to a mailing list once you're subscribed

Once you are subscribed, send your discussion messages to

   [log in to unmask]

Don't send requests for subscription or unsubscription to this
address: all that does is distribute your request to hundreds
of other people and annoy them!

Never send messages with MIME attachments like images, visiting cards,
or automatically-attached formatting like HTML encoding or Microsoft's
ms_tnef files. If your mailer has these facilities turned on, turn them
off now. Sending attachments to a mailing list is very discourteous to
others, completely unnecessary, a waste of bandwidth, and results in
higher costs for those users who have to pay to download their mail.


Reading the documentation

These procedures are described in more detail in the document sent to
all new subscribers. If you are already subscribed and didn't have time
to read it earlier, please do so now. If you are about to subscribe,
please make sure you read it when it arrives.

There are lots of useful commands in LISTSERV such as SET XML-L NOMAIL
which turns off the flow of messages temporarily without unsubscribing
you when you go away for a period (SET XML-L MAIL turns it on again).
It also describes what to do when your email address changes.


LISTSERV rejects your email even though you are subscribed

This is very common because systems administrators frequently change
your email address without telling you. It also happens if you change
Internet Provider and you don't have your own domain name.  It can also
happen when your systems administrators change addresses and DO tell
you, but you didn't act on it.

LISTSERV records your address when you subscribe. That is the only
address it recognises for you, so if your address changes, you need to
unsubscribe from the old address before it changes, and then subscribe
again from the new address.

If your address gets changed before you have a chance to do anything
about it, mail [log in to unmask] and ask for your old
address to be removed manually. You can then subscribe again from your
new address.


LISTSERV has automatically unsubscribed you and you don't know why

This happens when too many messages to your address fail to be
delivered.  They bounce back to the owner's mailbox. This can happen
for many reasons:

   * your Internet Provider has gone bust or been disconnected

   * your Internet Provider's connection is intermittent or flaky

   * your mailbox is full and won't accept any more messages

   * your email address has changed and your old one has been wiped

   * you've got an auto-filter script which is failing to work

For reasons which should be obvious, the it's impossible to mail you
to tell you you've been removed, or explain why.

If the problem was intermittent and has been solved, just subscribe
again in the normal way. If you need to know the reason (perhaps so you
can complain to your Internet Provider), mail
[log in to unmask] and ask.


If you have problems, then please mail
[log in to unmask]

Please always include copies of the emails or error messages you get,
with full headers, so that it is possible to find out what went wrong:
without the full headers it's usually not meaningful to try to find
out.

[end]

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