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Subject: Re: Trogain
From: Dennis King <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Scholars and students of Old Irish <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:49:50 -0700
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Ar 4:50 PM -0700 6/4/99, scríobh Draoi O'Duibhginn:

>i llúaidet mná trogain tres
>which is translated as :
>Where the raven-women instigate battle.
>
>Now what gets me here is the word "trogain" in reference to a raven.
>The only reference I have found for trogain is "bron trogain" to wit
>"the sorrow of the earth" with regard to the harvest and Lughnassadh.

DIL has two entries for "trogan", one meaning "earth", the other
"raven".  I don't know that there's a reflex of either of them in
the modern language.  Any Welsh cognates?

Dennis King

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