At 07:12 PM 19-05-1999 EDT, you wrote:
>Pleasure to meet you Graeme.
Pleasure to meet you too, Michelle :-)
>I have yet to see evidence of heaven and hell.
I hope it will be some time yet :-)
>Religion cannot be scientifically proven, <...>
In fact science itself has many aspects of a new religion...
ie creation stories, myths, heroes, unsolvable mysteries?
>In fact, biological research has made it seem like this is next
>to impossible- to be related to everyone in the world.<...>
Darn, I thought we *were* all related :-)
>We use religion to explain the "unexplainable." <...>
and now we use science instead?
ie we don't know yet, but we're working on it....
>>>So *some* must be lies, delusion, deception...
>Some religions may not be absolute truth,<...>
Yet the fact remains that there is a choice, or a cop-out...?
>That is the reason that they burn all the books in Ray Bradbury's
>Farenheit 451. <...>
Burning books is just an expensive way to get warm?
> >>clearly then you do not really *believe*
> >>that hell is real and that you *could* actually be going there...?
> >>Wouldn't it be wiser to avoid the possibility in case it's true? :-)
>If I were to live my life so that everything will work out in the end, just
>in case a religion may prove to be true, that would lead to total confusion
I dunno, I still have a pretty happy life as a Christian,
still married, five kids, cat, dog, chickens, Old Holden, 686, & a few
>A deviant individual cannot be blamed for all (or none) of the violence in
>our world. Just because they do not necessarily conform to what the majority
>believe, this does not mean that they will feel left out and suddenly all
>their repressed anger will erupt into a giant killing spree.
I was just trying to suggest it would be better if the weapons available
were less efficient... maybe people should go back to *playing* sport
instead of watching it?
>Some find ways
>to let their "deviance" be expressed through creative, self-actualized
>discoveries that the majority eventually come to realize and accept. The
>astronomer Bruno was publicly executed in 1600<...>
Surely you're not suggesting public executions are the answer?
(just kidding :-)
>>> Any advance on three?
>There is a Wiccan "law" that states -Ever mind the rule of three, what you
>send out comes back to thee- kind of like the golden rule.
I heard one about an Irish priest who throws the collection in the
air, what God wants He keeps...
>I don't see why I should give this credibility based on the observation that
>it is considered "deep and spiritual" I was baptized into the Mormon church
>when I was 8 years old.
Doctrine says you *must* be baptised into the name of the Lord Jesus Christ
for the remission of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy
(I didn't make it up :-)
>I am developing my own religion, that seems to fit rather nicely into
>the Wiccan tradition, which covers a wide spectrum of beliefs based upon a
>backbone of basic beliefs.
Perhaps you should thank God that you have the freedom to choose
your religion... it hasn't always been so...
yet *ultimately* your choice will either matter, or it won't :-)
Graeme M. Bailey <[log in to unmask]>
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