At 04:23 PM 5/14/99 -0400, Sharon Smith Hurlburt wrote:
>Most of the "triple" goddesses I've seen referenced in the Celtic myths
>*don't* have a Maiden, Mother, Crone thing going on. Brighid was one such
>Goddess & her triad was Healing, Smithcraft & Poetry. No mention of stages
>in the lifecycle whatsoever.
>While I think your theory is intersting, I don't see a lot to support it
>that has much to do with the Celts.
Which Celts when, Sharon?
I say again that all you will ever find on this silly Internet Celtic-L
mailing list thingy, or any other for that matter, is nothing more than reams and reams of text, the great bulk of it incoherent.
If you want to know about Celtic belief, believe me, you will not get
it from what is essentially nothing more than a bunch of computers all
wired up together, with so many anonymous boffins typing endless text
into it, inspired apparently by 12C Christian manuscripts.
I mean, it is so far removed from Celtic reality, you might as well be living on the moon. If you really do want to know about Celtic belief,
you really do need to get off your butt, go outside, and ask some Celts.
You will find that their beliefs differ widely. I suggest that were
you able to reappear at any time in history, to similarly ask Celts
what they believe, you will find also that _their_ beliefs differ as
widely as this crowd of Celts we have available for interview today.
To argue via an electronic medium over what Celts believe is quite as pointless as arguing similarly over what Catholics believe, insisting
that every reply MUST present proper academic references.
How silly! Were I myself a Catholic, my valid reply to you would be
simply along the lines of, "This I believe . . . ." My being Catholic,
were that the case, would be confirmed by nothing more certain than my acceptance as such by the Catholic community, yes?
We have been over this before . . . .
Similarly, any Celt posting an account of their beliefs here is offering
an account of Celtic belief. As you prefer, any of our resident Celtic
bards or poets can as surely offer Celtic mythology. That it may not
happen to fit a transcription by some 12C monk does not make it less
Celtic, nor certainly less mythological.
Since my Celtic enigmatica went right past you, well, I don't hope for
much in the way of your further edification on the matter.
Let me simply say then, that in dealing with mythology, religious belief,
or even fantasy, we are not dealing with facts, but beliefs. It is just
not possible to pin them down.
One might believe something today, and then change their mind completely tomorrow. With that option available to 5.5 billion people on the planet EVERY DAY, you will never begin to even grasp the complexity even of a "system" of belief.
Get it yet?
The best you may manage is a perception of patterns of belief which is
entirely and uniquely your own, less and less tenable today since people
are moving around so much.
There is absolutely nothing to support anything, that has anything to do with anything at all. It is all dream stuff, yes?
Another person posting to this list will have a perception similarly entirely and uniquely their own.
The two arguing with one another is as G.K. Chesterton pointed out, like
the two housewives screaming at one another from their respective second
storey windows; each arguing from different premises . . .
A friend of mine died finally of cancer last night. Last month another
friend had a baby. Those are the ultimate proofs as far as my personal
and professional opinions extend on the matter.
Holding someone's hand as they depart, and having another grasp your
finger as they arrive, is the very same thing. You are not going to
discover such truths by typing text into a computer.
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