In message <001101be93fc$e558db40$128730d4@cat>, Eric S Johnson writes:
>> If you want the negative side of UNDP's activities, as seen by a
>> private company trying to do business in The Gambia I can
>> definitely come up with a few points. What is Latin for "He came,
>> He saw, He Trampled" (Joke of the day: "Support for Small and
Listen to the man, Joern knows what he is doing :-)-O
> in what i've seen of UNDP's SDNP-type projects, their work seems
> quite variable, but maybe in any large organization that's
They often pay lip service to Sustaineable Development.
> their web site didn't seem to say anything about what they actually
> do (admittedly i didn't go through it all, because it's so poorly
> organized--makes you walk through a slide show)--lots of good words
> about networking, communicating, infrastructure, etc.
They have some very knowledgeable people, such as Raul Zambrano but
then they as all UN agency have fascinating hiring criteria.
They as all UN agencies (perhaps with UNICEF being somewhat of an
exception) suffer from (their local outlets) making compromises with
local authorities and governments.
However they are not as bad as the (USAID) Leland Initiative, which
you really want to kick out of your country if they come and approach
> what DO they do?
They fund a bureaucracy, however not as bad as UNESCO for example.
> set up an international gateway and pay for a 2mbps pipe coming into
> the country, then retail smaller chunks to local ISPs?
2MBs? What weed are you smoking? 64Kpbs is more likely.
> would that end up undercutting an ISP that has its own int'l pipe?
You have to see this in perspective, or rather historic terms :-)-O 5
years ago there were no ISP's in Africa. And only one or two in SOuth
Africa. The idea is, and should be, to go where there is no pipe and
put a pipe on a non profit basis so that the principle of Incremental
Growth (R) can be applied and eventually commercialized.
This for example should still work in North Korea, Lybia, Western
Sahara, and Palestine (which is not a good example, because they could
if they wanted use the Israeli pipes (sic)).
I do not understand the need to do things in South Korea, China and
Angola for that matter, which all have ISPs working.
Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse\ / Swakopmund State Hospital
<[log in to unmask]> * | Resident Medical Officer
Private Bag 5004 \ / +264 81 1246733 (c) 64 461005(h) 461004(f)
Swakopmund, Namibia ;____/ Domain Coordinator for NA-DOM (el108)