What instruments were played at the time of o'carolan?
What instruments were played before then?
In my last message I was trying to inform Yuval of the instruments that
were around in Ireland in O'Carolan's days and in mediaeval times. These
would not have to qualify as your "traditional" instruments, as many of the
"traditional" instruments were introduced after O'Carolan's days.
Furthermore I didn't claim all of these instruments to be traditional,
though many ancient instruments are in that category.
Scot Ó Muilleoir
Warpipes, parlour pipes, whistles ,bodhrán.
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P.S As far as I know the tiompán was only a form of a hammered dulcimer. I
have even heard it compared with a mediaeval psaltery.
Dose anyone know of any forms of flutes or tin whistles played in Ireland
in the Middle Ages?(outside the Pale)
From: Paul g. Mulvaney <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Instruments_needed_for_____________Irish_group
>Yuval and other relative neophytes to this music:
>Please be aware that antiquity is not Tradition. It may be that some form
>was played medievally in Ireland, or some form of bowed zither, or hammer
>or whatever. But simply having been part (and how big a part?) of Irish
>culture in the
>Middle Ages, or any other period, doesn't qualify an instrument as
>Traditional, just old.
>While we are at it, anonymity isn't necessarilly indicative of tradition,
>either. The Concertina was invented by Wheatstone (sort of the English
>equivalent of Thomas Edison, for us Yanks) and yet it is considered by many
>be exemplary of Clare music. Some very old tunes we know the composers of,
>but they have still been passed down to us by aural Tradition.
>Oh, and the evidence for the Tiompan as an Ancient Irish Hammer Dulcimer is
>probelmatic at least --- a few vague discriptions. HD's have been around
>generations in Ireland but the players were rarely integrated into the
>(or the session, until recently) with the exeption of a few Ceili Bands;
>you feel this qualifies it as a Traditonal Instrument is anyone's guess,
>you can find allies for either opinion, but there is yet no solid evidence
>Hammer Dulcimer has been around Ireland since the ancient days. Of that
>we are sure we are unsure. ---pg