Excellently-worded Mike! This is, in my opinion, a voice of sanity on this
list. The critical phrase in your email is that this music is "a living
tradition", which implies that it changes over time. Whilst the
instruments that have been introduced over the past few years are not
"traditional" in the strict sense of the word, many of them are well-suited
to Irish traditional music, sound great playing it, and have contributed
greatly to the spread of interest in Irish music, be it strictly
traditional or more modern.
Last weekend in Sebastopol, CA, I had the privilege of attending a concert
at which Liam O'Flynn and Arty McGlinn played, and also Martin Hayes and
Dennis Cahill. Am I to believe that I wasn't listening to "real" Irish
traditional music because of the presence of guitars? I have a hard time
believing that. How about Kevin Burke and Tony McManus? Is that also not
considered "real" Irish music because of Tony McManus' brilliant
complementary guitar work? Am I to believe that artists of the stature of
Liam O'Flynn, Martin Hayes, and Kevin Burke are debasing the tradition? I
don't think so!
All, of course, IMHO!
Mike Dugger <[log in to unmask]> on 12/28/98 05:25:20 PM
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Subject: Re: Instruments needed for Irish group
Well Yuval at the risk of sawing off the limb I am on here goes:
Tin Whistle (or wood suppose would work bu the tone can be warmer and
have talked to say Hrmmph!)
Flute (Wooden, although remember Joanie Madden uses a metal one)
Box (Commonly known, also as Accordion)
Concertina (Anglo, push/pull)
I am basing the choices above on how the music sounds when playing
on these instruments. You will notice that most of them fall into what I
the 'legato' family of instruments.
Not included because they have a different sound (more percussive,
dymnamic) when playing the tunes is Tenor Banjo, Bouzouki, Mandolin,
Keybords, Hammer Dulcimer.
This being said they all now have a place in this living tradition
there are several players who have found ways to incorporate them into the
Remember one thing; musical pursuits may often reflect a musicains
experiment with different sounds. One of my favorite two instrument sounds
Box and Banjo. Another is Banjo and Bouzouki. Another is Fiddle and Box.
kind of investigation has been gaining more strength lately with the
groups and is a direct result of attempting to put together bands that have
there own ideas about establishing sets into the tradition that that have a
sound 'new' and all their own.
If anything has changed this music in the last 50 years it is the creative
I can almost hear the limb cracking ....
??? ?? wrote:
> From: Yuval
> Dear Paul,
> Now I understand the meaning of playing traditionaly,
> The question I wanted to ask at the begining of this discussion should
> have been:
> What is the instruments in the Traditional Irish group? the instruments
> that are "truely" Celtic?
Agent and Member Sunrush
Irish Traditional Fiddler
Lopitha Music and Case Company
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