Dennis King wrote:
> He just tossed it out in a discussion (in _Stair na Gaeilge_, p.126) >of Indo-European independent suffixes such as *-yo-, *-wo-, *-no-, >*-ro-, etc. which have left traces in Old Irish. There's really no >more argument. He simply derives OI "domun" and MW "dwvyn" from IE >*dub-no-s, where -no- is one of the independent suffixes, and *dub- >comes from the root *dhubh-.
> The next question, I guess, is "what is the value of the IE suffix >*-no-?"
Well, I have to admit it is tempting to associate those words with dub
'dark, black.' But as you say, I guess it all depends on wether we can
identify a meaning for the -no-, -ro- affixes. If they are affixes.
After all dub might not be related to dubn, dubr, i.e. dubn, dubr may
just be similar, but unrelated, words.
> ALSO: I see that in my haste around midnight last night, I conflated >his argument, which should be: IE *dub-ro-s gives OI "dobur" and OW >"dubr", both meaning "(dark) water";
Modern Welsh dwfr, dw+r (water). As I said, tempting. But it may be
simpler to explain these words as similar yet unrelated than to
postulate that the words for 'world/deep' and 'water' are related to a
word for 'dark/black.'
One wonders why then isn't there a word for '(bright) water.'
Glas-ro-s perhaps? ;-)
I mean one would expect dub-lin to be filled with dub-ro, but what about
Lough Derg? ;-)
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