> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 23:27:29 +0000
> From: Greig <[log in to unmask]>
Ok, obviously it is necessary to take one of your mails apart line by
line. As I yesterday ruined my ankle during work, I have the time for
this today. However, note that this is the final warning I send
urging you to stop sending diatribe and propaganda to the list. I am
not happy if I have to use this possibility, but this is my list and
if you frequently ignore my directives I will have to take you off
the list and block you from further sending anything to Celtic-L. You
of course are welcome to respond to this message, but avoid
responding with more diatribe.
> The only issue is the direct and unprovoked and unsubstantiated attack by
> Ray on myself which was vicious and uncalled for.
I did not attack you at all. I wrote several messages asking you
extremely poiltely that you should stop and that, in my personal
opinion, your point of view is rather limited, not in the slightest
objective and quite out of the way. If you are allowed to post your
opinions on my list, I hopefully will be allowed to post mine as
well. If you can't live with that, you'd better leave Celtic-L.
Additionally, as I am the content-owner of Celtic-L, I decide what
material is appropriate for this list and which not. If I decide that
talking about the site of La Tene is not appropriate, so it is,
regardless what others think. If you don't play by the rules, Greig,
you won't play at all.
> Therefore as to the
> correctness or otherwise of my opinions it is clear that not one of you
> or Ray for that matter were able to point out one teeny weeny little
> error of fact nor were you able to present any rational alternatives.
You seem to beg for it, so there you go. You have sent some Megabytes
of what you think to be facts that, for instance, proove that the
conflicts in NI were a deliberate British Government plan to finish
off the Norther Irish Catholics. Anyways, you still failed to
convince me that these accusations are correct. Reading some of the
other listmember's messages on that matter convices me that you
didn't convince them either.
> In fact it has turned into a cowardly dog pack of ridicule based on
> Ray's original unsubstantiated allegations which he has sadly
> declined to apologise for. Ray in fact studiously avoided any
> mention of any one particular episode or incident and I suggest
> he did that because he knew each and every single item I posted
> was completely true.
The only one who maybe should apologize is you, as you resorted to
namecalling and attacks that are completely out of the way.
BTW, I do not in the slightest doubt that those incidents you report
actually happened. They are easy to check, and therefore it would be
absolute stupidity if you would make any of them up. However, the
interpretations you base on them are something which are quite open to
discussion, and as you build theories on your interpretations these in
no way are facts. However, as you claim not only the incidents you
report, but also your theories are factual and can be prooven, I do
take the freedom to object. You are not god. As such, every single
item you posted is dependent on your view of the situation, which is,
to say it friendly, at somewhat biased. And a biased view on the
situation never can provide "truthful" information.
> Those of you on the list who didn't follow through with this infantile
> and school yardish rancour against myself are a credit to yourselves.
> It is very easy to be a bully when there is a busload of like minded
> individuals who are prepared to make a common enterprise out of
> shared endeavour.
And it's always easy to claim that all but oneself are driving on
the wrong side of the road, but it is only seldom true.
Anyways, to again make myself perfectly clear: If you don't stop to
post messages which I think not appropriate for Celtic-L, I will
have to stop you from posting alltogether. I would hate if I have to
do this, but if necessary I will.
Also, I will not apologize for daring to have an opinion of my own. So
stop ranting about me calling you a liar or bigot (which I did not do),
as it is for no avail. If you are not prepared to take that somebody
else might have an opinion differing from yours, your not fit for any
Finally, play by the rules. If you can't accept that this list has a
listowner, go look for one which doesn't. But stop bothering the
whole list with 20+ mails each day which contain nothing but rants,
diatribe or propaganda. If you don't, I will care for this.
RAY (Raimund Karl,University of Vienna,Dep.of Prehistory)
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