> It is said that, in the times of Charles the Great, the Church
> didn`t allow to pray any angel but Gabriel, Raphael and Michael. Not
> far from my house it was unburied, long ago, a stone from the 10th
> century where a sorcer was written, asking about ten angels to keep
> hail away from the local fields of wheat "You, Mammoniel, who hold the
> clouds in your hands". If that isn`t paganism, I am Bilbo Baggins.
Nice to meet you Mr Baggins. Do you have any seed-cake?? :)
> Now, look at Christianism before Luther, what do you see? The IE
> model or the jewish one? The roman catholics still leave wax legs in
> the sanctuaries of the Virgin, as the old gaulish did. In Neapoli,
> people used to pray like this: "Lord, ask ST. Genarus to..."
> In Seville, they say "Hooray for our lady of the Macarena, and f...
> the one of El Rocio". Moslem and jewish religion are based on a book,
> the catholics were not allowed to read the bible until the 18th
> century. (this is not an attack, I am a catholic if I am something).
All of which supports the thesis CHristianity melded into, not
replaced, native beliefs....
> Gerald of Wales says, in his time, the nuns at the monastery kept the
> bonfire of Brigid burning. As the fire of Vesta. The fields around the
> monastery, though fertile, where kept untilled. They were sacred.
The Normans put that fire out, like the Romans put out the Gallic
"eternal fire", and thr Moslems put out the Persian one...."Eternal"
fires were very vulnerable to unbelievers with buckets of water!!