At 02:15 PM 4/23/98 -0500, Tom K. wrote:
>Yes, and?? They were still a majority in that region. If the lower
>portion of Ireland was getting its freedom, the majority of the northern
>section wanted to make a break and stay with England. That was their
>choice, and I think it was their right.
I think most people would interpret the forced partition of Ireland in 1922
as a "sour grapes" approach of Lloyd-George's government to having to give
up any part of Ireland. And anyway, only 3 of the 6 counties (then or now)
had non-Roman Catholic majorities. The committment to "local majority" rule
was not exactly recognized by Britain. To link partition to any kind of
noble objective is, it seems to me, disingenuous.
>Just because a bunch of Celtic romanticists would like to see a united
>Ireland is no good reason the world should force the Irish to unite
>against their will.
Again, if you segment people properly the "they" in "their" can be
manipulated beyond belief. How should we count people? By county? By
Province? Ulster would have been Catholic in that case, so some counties
were shaved off (like Donegal).
>The minority IS the majority in Northern Ireland, which IS a separate
>entity. Even if it weren't, the US Constitution grants certain powers to
>the states which cannot be superceded by the federal government. So,
>even if a majority of the country wants something to occur in Rhode
>Island, a majority of Rhode Islanders has veto power over them (in, as I
>said, certain issues).
I wouldn't put my eggs in this basket if I were you. Remember the desire of
the majority of Southerners to have slavery in 1861? There are far more
policies that cannot be contested at the local level. The US is (despite
people like the Texas Republic folk) *one* country with one set of federal
laws, regulations, taxes, etc. The part of the Constitution reserving
rights to the states is the *murkiest* part of the Billof Rights, with no
Look--this could go on forever. The proposed amendments to the Irish
constitution are much less drastic than I expected they would be, and in an
age of increasing European unification, perhaps these issues will finally
settle into the dustbin of history. I am praying for a cessation of
hostilities and a time when people begin to seek the common ground they
share with their neighbors rather than claim a historical right of majority
rule to justify the differences.