On "Titanic" as the ship was sinking, if you had seen this movie, you
probably saw a mother telling her children a bed time story about Tir na'n
Og because she knew that they were going to die.
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From: Cristobal García <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Saturday, April 11, 1998 7:30 AM
Subject: A continental folk tale about Tir na`n Og
> Greetings to the list, after Easter holidays (studying and below
>zero, that`s what I call fun)
>---"d. w. fortin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Hi Max,
>> One last posting on this (it being non-Celtic) and I'll shut up.
> It was celtic, at first. If we find out that the spread
>of Christianism is just another religious change (as when
>Gaulish-shapeless gods transformed into Gaul-Roman gods, and yet they
>survived as part of the celtic culture), then a wide new world opens
>before our eyes. If we accept that there is no break, but continuity,
>between politheistic European religions and Christendom, then
> a)We can find out a lot about old beliefs just surveying modern
>legends and feasts.
> b)Celtic world is much wider than gaelic-speaking countries, and
>celtic culture is alive and healthy all over the continent (or it was
>short ago, before coca-cola and TV arrived).
> Here it comes one example.
> The following is a folk tale picked up during last century by
>Aurelio del Llano, in two distant villages (I mean, it was not
>invented by anyone).
> Once upon a time, a shepherd arrived in Heaven. He left his cane of
>oak tree by the gate and got in. He enjoyed a lot there, but at last
>St. Peter came by his side and told him: "It`s time for you to leave".
>The shepherd answered "How so?, I arrived just last week". Then
>St.Peter showed the shepherd his cane, which had remained out of
>Heaven, and it had became dust. "You have stayed here for 1000 years,
>you must leave". The man, then came back to his village, but everyone
>had forgotten him and his family. At last, he bought a flock of sheep,
>went to live in the mountains, and died alone".
> Here, you can arrive on foot to Heaven, it`s a physical site. You
>can stay in it as you are alive, and time passes at another rate. In
>fact, St. Peter is the only difference between this "Heaven" and Tir
>na`n Og. Well, I think this is a good source of information to know
>old religion, isn`t it? As good as archaeology.
> I`ve got a lot of mad theories concerning to this, but first I`d
>like to know if my method can be accepted, because I`m afraid scholars
>don`t like this type of things.
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