In a message dated 97-05-01 08:00:27 EDT, you write:
<< Now...nowhere did Mr. Cain say that this was an accepted term...quite the
And Mr. Cain fails to see what it was he said that was such a threat to
you. I think it's an incorrect term...if the world disagrees...won't be
the first time. I certainly wasn't on the attack.
Oh well...oh, by the way...you were born here, right? Guess what, that
makes you a Native American. Native - belonging to by birth or origin.
America - the place where YOU were born and originated.
As I said, I've no idea what provoked you to attack...kind of enjoyed
it...let's me let my snide side out to play...but so far this had been a
friendly multi-part discussion with my position generally on the losing
Bi/onn dha/ insint ar sce/al agus dha/ leagan de/ag ar amhra/n.
Le meas >>
If calling an older gentleman like yourself, Mr. Cain, is
irksome to you and including statements such as "with all due respects" and
"thank you for your input" constitute an "attack", then I guess we part
on yet another term! You'll have to concede that you unfailingly let us know
from time to time that you are older than most of us, as with your recent
response to Neil, whom you called a "boyo" and that "I was a gleam in your
father's eye" business. Sorry. I won't extend that deference again.
However, I might suggest that you reread your words . What I, and
others, read as absolutism, you are now dismissing as YOUR personal
preference, but this is what I was responding to in my "attack":
"The only thing I'd argue with in your statement is the term Irish-American.
And (sic) Irish-American is someone born in Ireland who becomes an
American citizen." Your words on 4-27-97 as appended to my post. This
comment to me generated quite a response. "It's a subtle difference,
but significant." Your words, same post.......Well said, well said!
Sounds emphatic to me, folks.
I, too, have enjoyed this discussion immensely, even including
you get your "snide side out to play" ref. the diatribe part on your likening
me to Sean's teacher, who is SO very lucky that you didn't report her,and,of
course, the bit about the book and Moynihan. This, of course, yet another
redux of the "All teachers are idiots" stereotype; the lament of the over-
taxed, overburdened surbanite. A stereotype, which, in itself, may indicate
why education is so poor in our country. Or, parts of our country.
Now to your PS. This I REALLY find puzzling in light of the off-line
discussion you and I shared within the last week or so regarding your
having seen LOTD live and my about to be seeing it live. I suspect you
have forgotten that too, "sorry darlin". I'm sure it served some purpose!
But let me close on an affable note. I call your attention to the
fact that I did not stoop to "respond in kind", preferring to ignore the
urge to append some entirely irrelevant Marine anecdote here. LOL.
How does one say "Semper Fi" in Irish?
Co-Captain with Neil in C-L semantics. Not an aside, Neil. A true honor!