On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Paul Wagner wrote:
> > At 03:21 PM 4/17/97 GMT+1000, Paul Wagner wrote:
> > >Yes, but as we also all know, Celtic culture had its share of
> > >nastiness too. Nothing can be seen as all-good or all-bad. The
> > >British Empire had many attributes to be admired, and many befeficial
> > >results.
> > Such as?
> Well we could start with burning captives in wickermen,
As opposed to burning them honestly at the stake in the clean English
> go through centuries in incessant infighting and clan warfare,
... or centuries of bloody imperialist expansion...
> including staged battles involving hundreds of clansmen fighting to the
> death in front of the King to settle disputes,
... as opposed to World War I, in which *millions* of men fought to
the death to settle a dispute among kings...
> end with the Jacobites forcing lowranked clansmen into military service
> as their rent.
... which was quickly improved upon by the English practice of
"impressing" people into military service at random, and not even for the
benefit for paying rent.
> Lets not get too romanticised here!!
The point is well-taken, but you didn't answer Danielle's question.
She asked you what good came out of the British Empire, and you've
replied instead with a litany of Celtic atrocities. No-one has said that
there weren't atrocities among the Celts; what we are saying is that
imperalism was and is an almost wholly bad thing, and no-one has managed
to disprove that yet.