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CELTIC-L  February 1997

CELTIC-L February 1997

Subject:

CELTIC-L FAQ

From:

"Seamus Mac Conaonaigh, UCG" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

CELTIC-L - The Celtic Culture List.

Date:

Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:13:06 +0000

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           Frequently Asked Questions with Answers for CELTIC-L

                   (The Celtic Culture Mailing List FAQ)



Version:             1.2
Date:                Friday, 28 February, 1997
Originally created:  January, 1997
Author:              Seamus Mac Conaonaigh <[log in to unmask]>
Maintained by:       Seamus Mac Conaonaigh <[log in to unmask]>

       This document will be posted to CELTIC-L on a regular basis.

                           ---------------------

This document  contains  Frequently  Asked Questions  about  CELTIC-L  (The
Celtic Culture Mailing List), together with answers to those questions.  If
you have  a  problem/question  about  CELTIC-L,  you  should  consult  this
document before posting your question  to the CELTIC-L forum  or asking the
listowners.

Suggestions for  improvement are  welcome, and  should be  directed to  the
author's e-mail address above.


                           ---------------------

                            Index of Questions

Section 1: CELTIC-L - the Celtic Culture Discussion List.
    Q 1.1   What is CELTIC-L?
    Q 1.2   How did CELTIC-L start?
    Q 1.3   Who runs CELTIC-L?
    Q 1.4   What material is appropriate?
    Q 1.5   What material is not appropriate?

Section 2: Subscribing and Unsubscribing
    Q 2.1   How do mailing lists work?
    Q 2.2   How do I subscribe to CELTIC-L?
    Q 2.3   How can I see the membership of the list?
    Q 2.4   How do I leave CELTIC-L?
    Q 2.5   Why do I continue to receive mail after unsubscribing?
    Q 2.6   I still can't get off the list!! What do I do?
    Q 2.7   Why have I been kicked off the list?

Section 3: Archives and Resources
    Q 3.1   Can I get hold of archives (i.e. all the old postings)?

Section 4: List Options
    Q 4.1   What are "list options"?
    Q 4.2   How do I know if my message has been distributed to CELTIC-L?
    Q 4.3   How do I stop my name appearing on the membership list?
    Q 4.4   What are Digests and Indices?
    Q 4.5   Can I stop receiving messages for a short time (e.g. vacation)?


                           ---------------------





Section 1: CELTIC-L - the Celtic Culture Discussion List.


Q 1.1   What is CELTIC-L?

Answer: CELTIC-L is a mailing list for discussion of Celtic Culture.

        A mailing list is an  open forum for debate  on a particular topic.
        People "subscribe" to the list (see  next Section) and then receive
        (as e-mail) all the messages  posted to the list  by other members.
        They may also post to  the list themselves and  their postings will
        be seen by all the other members.

        A     central     computer     program      handles     all     the
        re-mailing/administration  (in  this  case  the   computer  is  the
        Listserv in University  College, Dublin,  Ireland), so  that little
        effort is required by the members themselves.


Q 1.2   How did CELTIC-L start?

Answer: CELTIC-L was started in 1991 by  Melcir Erksine-Richmond and Seamus
        Mac Conaonaigh.  Melcir originally came up with the concept for the
        list, and Seamus obtained permission from UCD to use their Listserv
        as the CELTIC-L site.


Q 1.3   Who runs CELTIC-L?

Answer: There are two active CELTIC-L owners at the moment.  The "technical
        owner" is Seamus Mac Conaonaigh <[log in to unmask]>.  He should
        be  contacted  for   help  on   technical  issues   (problems  with
        subscriptions, unsubscriptions etc.).

        Raimund Karl <[log in to unmask]>  is the  "content owner".
        He can help with queries  about the subject matter  of the list, or
        individual messages.

        University College, Dublin, Ireland, own  the server which CELTIC-L
        uses <[log in to unmask]>.


Q 1.4   What material is appropriate?

Answer: Basically anything to  do with  the culture  of any  of the  celtic
        countries  (Ireland,  Scotland,  Wales,  Isle   of  Man,  Cornwall,
        Brittany, and  any  other areas  that  were celt-occupied  at  some
        stage) is acceptable.

        This includes, but  is not  limited to,  music, language,  customs,
        traditions, stories, myths,  legends, social  structures, religious
        structures, beliefs, law systems and so on.


Q 1.5   What material is not appropriate?

Answer: Everything posted to  CELTIC-L (or  any other list)  uses a  lot of
        network resources. Since each post is being sent to several hundred
        people, it's equivalent  to sending  several hundred  separate mail
        messages. For this reason everyone should be careful what they post
        - use of network resources cost time and money.

        Be very careful in  posting anything which falls  outside the above
        guidelines.  In particular, advertising of  products or services on
        CELTIC-L is strictly  prohibited (this  doesn't include  passing on
        relevant information about a product/service which you, personally,
        have found useful).

        You  should  also  keep  personal  messages  off  the  list,  where
        possible. There have been many problems with so-called "flame wars"
        - these have sometimes  made up 75%  of the total  messages, to the
        annoyance of 95% of the members.

        In summary, CELTIC-L is a  free service, paid for  only by the time
        and energy of its coordinators and the good will of the educational
        institutions involved. Please do not abuse it.



Section 2: Subscribing and Unsubscribing


Q 2.1   How do mailing lists work?

Answer: A mailing  list  uses  a  computer  program  (called  Listserv)  to
        maintain a list  of people interested  in a particular  topic.  Any
        message that is sent to the List Address <[log in to unmask]>
        gets distributed to  everybody who  is a  member of  the list.   If
        members are interested in the topic of  the message, they can reply
        to it, and  these replies are  also sent  to everybody on  the list
        (unless a member replies specifically to the sender of the message,
        privately.  How you do this will depend  on what mailing system you
        use).  This enables  a mailing  list to  act as  an open  forum for
        discussions.

        A second e-mail address is used for administrative commands such as
        subscriptions/cancellations/option-setting.   This  should  not  be
        confused with the List Address; they are _not_ interchangable. This
        second  address  (we'll  call  it   the  Subscription  Address)  is
        <[log in to unmask]> and  it  is  here you  should  send  all
        Listserv commands.


Q 2.2   How do I subscribe to CELTIC-L?

Answer: To subscribe  to (i.e.  to join)  the  list, send  a one-line  mail
        message with no subject header to  the Subscription Address (that's
        <[log in to unmask]>  -  NOT  the  List  Address!)  with  the
        following text in the body of the message:

            SUBSCRIBE CELTIC-L your real name

        For example:

            SUBSCRIBE CELTIC-L Tom A. Peterson

        You don't need  to specify  your e-mail  address; the  machine will
        figure it out  automatically.  CELTIC-L doesn't  cost any  money to
        receive unless  you are  ordinarily  charged for  receiving  e-mail
        anyway.


Q 2.3   How can I see the membership of the list?

Answer: You do this using the REVIEW command.  Send the following line in a
        mail      message      to       the      Subscription       Address
        <[log in to unmask]>:

            REVIEW CELTIC-L

        You will receive  a mail message  containing information  about the
        list together with  names and e-mail  addresses of all  the members
        (except those who have deliberately  concealed themselves using the
        SET command - see below).


Q 2.4   How do I leave CELTIC-L?

Answer: This is the most-frequently asked question of all.  Here's what you
        do:

        Send a  one-line  mail  message  with  no  subject  header  to  the
        Subscription Address <[log in to unmask]> with  the following
        text in the body of the message:

            UNSUBSCRIBE CELTIC-L

        That's all.   No e-mail  addresses  or personal  names  need to  be
        specified.


Q 2.5   Why do I continue to receive mail after unsubscribing?

Answer: The second-most-frequently asked question!

        There could be one of two reasons for this.  The first is that your
        subscription request was unsuccessful.   This is rarer  than people
        think.  If you receive a message from the Listserv telling you that
        you're unsubscribed, then you  _are_ unsubscribed (unless  you were
        subscribed twice, or something). If you don't receive this message,
        or receive one which tells you  that your "unsubscribe" request has
        failed (e.g. "You  are not  on the  list" or  "I've never  heard of
        CELTIC-L") then  check  that  you  are  following  the  unsubscribe
        procedure _exactly_: the  right address  <[log in to unmask]>
        and the right command (UNSUBSCRIBE CELTIC-L). If it _still_ doesn't
        work, check  whether  your e-mail  address  has changed  since  you
        originally subscribed (this  can happen without  your knowing  it -
        your company/institution may have implemented a change). If it has,
        you need to contact the  list owner to remove  the old address (the
        Listserv won't  be able  to  see that  mail  coming from  your  new
        address corresponds with the old address).

        The second possibility is that you _are_ unsubscribed but are still
        receiving a backlog of  messages.  Often messages take  a couple of
        days (sometimes several) to reach their destination.  Messages that
        are sent from the Listserv before you unsubscribe may not reach you
        until some time after you receive the  message telling you that you
        are now "unsubscribed".  These messages are in transit, and nothing
        can be done about them. The only solution is to outwait them - they
        should stop after a few days at most.


Q 2.6   I still can't get off the list!! What do I do?

Answer: If  nothing   above   works,   then  contact   the   listowner   at
        <[log in to unmask]> and he'll try to unsubscribe you manually.


Q 2.7   Why have I been kicked off the list?

Answer: There are usually a  couple of reasons  why you may  stop receiving
        mail from the list.   In the following  cases, action may  be taken
        (either automatically  by the  Listserv, or  manually  by the  list
        owner) to remove a subscriber:

        (a)     If the subscriber's account  no longer exists  (i.e. if the
                computer at the subscriber's organisation returns a message
                saying that the  user's account  or mailbox  doesn't exist)
                then the subscriber will be removed.

        (b)     If the subscriber's mailbox is continually over quota (i.e.
                the subscriber can't receive mail because  there is no room
                in his/her mailbox) then the subscriber will be removed.

        Note that the above  actions will only  be taken after  many errors
        from the subscriber's mailing address (i.e. one message saying your
        mailbox is overflowing won't get you removed; 30 will).

        If you find that you've  stopped receiving mail from  the list, you
        should first check to see whether  you're still subscribed (use the
        REVIEW command as described  above).  If you're not,  then you have
        probably been unsubscribed. The easiest thing to do in this case is
        simply resubscribe (see above under the SUBSCRIBE command).

        If you're still  subscribed, but  not receiving  mail, this  may be
        because mail has been delayed  at a gateway (very  likely), or that
        the list has become quiet (not as  likely), or that the Listserv is
        down (infrequent but not unknown). If the problem persists, contact
        the Listowner.



Section 3: Archives and Resources


Q 3.1   Can I get hold of archives (i.e. all the old postings)?

Answer: Every message sent  to CELTIC-L  is automatically  archived by  the
        Listserv. There are two ways to access these archives.

        Anybody who has a WWW  browsers can access a  searchable version of
        the archives (and archives for other Listserv lists as well) at the
        URL <http://listserv.hea.ie/lists/index.html>.

        The archives  can  also  be retrieved  directly  from  Listserv  in
        monthly format.  To see an index of  the available archives, send a
        one-line mail message  with no subject  header to  the Subscription
        Address <[log in to unmask]> with  the following text  in the
        body of the message:

            INDEX CELTIC-L

        To get an inidividual archive, send a one-line mail message with no
        subject      header      to      the      Subscription      Address
        <[log in to unmask]> with the following  text in the  body of
        the message:

            GET CELTIC-L LOGyymm

        where yymm is the year and the month  of the archive you want.  For
        example, if you want to get the archive for August, 1993, you send

            GET CELTIC-L LOG9308

        There are also facilities available for  searching the archives for
        certain  keywords/topics  (this  saves  you   receiving  huge  mail
        messages which may  not contain anything  of interest to  you).  To
        find out more about this service, send one or both of the following
        lines to the  Subscription Address <[log in to unmask]>  in a
        mail message:

            INFO
            INFO DATABASE



Section 4: List Options


Q 4.1   What are "list options"?

Answer: Your list options control things such as the way the Listserv sends
        you your mail and how it handles postings from you.

        To find out what your current options  are, send the following line
        to the Subscription  Address <[log in to unmask]>  in a  mail
        message:

            QUERY CELTIC-L

        You change your mailing options using the SET command.  The options
        include the  following  categories:  Acknowledgment,  Reproduction,
        Concealment, Digests/Indices and  Mail.  These  are covered  in the
        next several questions, together with the use of the SET command.


Q 4.2   How do I know if my message has been distributed to CELTIC-L?

Answer: Usually, the Listserv doesn't send you copies of your own messages,
        so it's difficult  to know  whether your  message was  successfully
        distributed  or  not.  The  way  around  this  is  to  change  your
        Acknowledgment or your Reproduction options.

        Your Acknowledgment option  controls whether or  not you  receive a
        short message from Listserv telling you  that your message has been
        distributed.  To invoke this  option, send the following  line in a
        mail      message      to       the      Subscription       Address
        <[log in to unmask]>:

            SET CELTIC-L ACK

        To  turn   it  off   again,  so   that  you   won't  receive   this
        acknowledgment, send the following line instead:

            SET CELTIC-L NOACK

        Your Reproduction option controls whether or not you receive copies
        of your own messages  from Listserv.  This is  normally turned off,
        because Listserv  assumes that  you  already _know_  what  messages
        you've sent and don't  want another copy.   However, sometimes it's
        useful to have a copy to let you know your message was received, or
        for archival purposes.

        If you  wish to  receive  copies of  all  your postings,  send  the
        following line  in  a  mail message  to  the  Subscription  Address
        <[log in to unmask]>:

            SET CELTIC-L REPRO

        If you want to turn off this option,  so that you no longer receive
        copies of your own postings, send the following line instead:

            SET CELTIC-L NOREPRO




Q 4.3   How do I stop my name appearing on the membership list?

Answer: The REVIEW command (see above) allows anyone to view the membership
        of CELTIC-L.   If you  don't want  your  name to  appear when  this
        command is used, you should change  your Concealment option.  To do
        this,  send  the  following  command  in  a  mail  message  to  the
        Subscription Address <[log in to unmask]>:

            SET CELTIC-L CONCEAL

        To change this back,  so that your  name once again  appears on the
        membership list, send the following line instead:

            SET CELTIC-L NOCONCEAL

        Note that the  list owner  will always  be able  to see  the entire
        membership of the list, regardless of members' concealment options.
        This is necessary for the administration of the list.


Q 4.4   What are Digests and Indices?

Answer: Sometimes the traffic (i.e.  amount of messages) can  be very heavy
        on CELTIC-L, and  members can  receive a large  amount of  mail per
        day. Digests and Indices provide a way around this.

        A Digest is a single large mail  message containing all of a single
        day's postings.  If you choose to receive your mail in Digest form,
        you will just get a single message  every day from CELTIC-L (albeit
        a large one), which you can then read at your convenience.

        To receive your mail in  Digest form, send the  following line in a
        mail      message      to       the      Subscription       Address
        <[log in to unmask]>:

            SET CELTIC-L DIGEST

        To stop receiving Digests, send the following line instead:

            SET CELTIC-L NODIGEST

        An Index is a mail message containing  a list of the day's postings
        to CELTIC-L.  It shows the sender and subject of each posting.  You
        can then  decide  which messages  you  want  to retrieve  from  the
        archives (if any).

        To receive Indices from CELTIC-L, send the following line in a mail
        message to the Subscription Address <[log in to unmask]>:

            SET CELTIC-L INDEX

        To stop receiving Indices, send the following line instead:

            SET CELTIC-L NOINDEX

        Note that  after  setting  a  NOINDEX or  a  NODIGEST  option,  the
        Listserv will revert back to sending you  mail in whatever form was
        used before you set your option to INDEX or DIGEST.


Q 4.5   Can I stop receiving messages for a short time (e.g. vacation)?

Answer: Sometimes it's useful to be  able to stop the  Listserv sending you
        your CELTIC-L postings for a short time  (e.g. if you're going away
        for  a  week,  say).    Obviously,  you  can  do   this  by  simply
        unsubscribing and then resubscribing when you return.  However, you
        can also just set your Mailing option instead.

        To stop receiving postings  from the list, send  the following line
        in    a    mail    message    to     the    Subscription    Address
        <[log in to unmask]>:

            SET CELTIC-L NOMAIL

        To start receiving mail again, send the following line instead:

            SET CELTIC-L MAIL

        Note that you  may still receive  some messages after  setting your
        NOMAIL option - these  have been sent before  the Listserv received
        your command but haven't been  received by you before  you sent the
        command.





                               ---------------------

                                             (c) 1997 Seamus Mac Conaonaigh
                    Please feel free to distribute this information freely.
                 Disclaimer: This information is accurate to the best of my
          knowledge, but I take no responsibility for errors or ommissions.

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