> Date sent: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:17:06 PST
> Send reply to: "CELTIC-L - The Celtic Culture List." <[log in to unmask]>
> From: Scott Robert Ladd <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Heritage and Acceptance
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> Paul Wagner writes:
> >My experiance with the Australian branches of the Clans is that
> >they do require some amount of documentary proof of descent.
> Understandable. I'm not really interested in joining one; I
> know who I am, and a piece of paper isn't going to change who
> my ancestors were.
> For example: Let's say that I can PROVE that my ancestors
> belonged to clan MacGregor (which is quite likely, through
> my mother). Does that automatically make me an instant member
> of Rob Roy's family? Probably not. I've never visited the
> Highlands; having a piece of MacGregor tartan, or knowing the
> clan motto won't really tell me anything about what it's like
> to be a MacGregor.
> Perhaps we can create a "Clan MacConfused" for those of us
> whose ancestry is less than perfect. <grin>
> In fact, that sounds like an excellent project! I wonder if I
> could find others interested in a serious group, ala "Clan
> Clearances." We could simply require a knowledge of Gaelic
> ancestry, regardless of paper proof. Maybe we could pool resources
> to seek our backgrounds.
Thats the idea behind Clan Ish!
> >As to which clan you can join, there's no reason you can't be in
> >more than one.
> These look to me like social clubs; they can't possibly embody
> the traditional structure of a Scottish clan, since the original
> clans were interactive family structures centered on a land base
> controlled by a thane or laird.
No, but in Scotland they enjoy favoured tax status, and membership
gives ytou benefits in some historic sites and stuff. And if you're a
Campbell, you're banned from most of it!!
> If I'm going to get involved directly in my Scottish heritage,
> I'll want to spend time in Scotland in the areas where my ancestors
> lived before their removal. You can't truly understand a culture
> by reading books and attending festivals; you need to be with people
> living that life.
> I'll know the homeland of my ancestors from its place in my heart,
> not the certificate on my wall.
> Scott Robert Ladd
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