On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, Marc Morales wrote:
> At 08:00 AM 2/21/96 -0500, Raghnall Toma/s O/g O/ Cearbhaill wrote:
> >On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, Marc Morales wrote:
> >> At 07:28 PM 2/17/96 +0000, M.A. Handley wrote:
> >> >A connection between Lancelot and any Celtic figure would be made
> >> >possible, if still not plausible, if Lancelot actually could be found in
> >> >a 'Celtic' text. He's not in any of the Mabiniogion tales, nor part of
> >> >the Ulster Cycle (or any Irish Sagas) nor in any of the Saga Englynion from
> >> >early Wales. Lancelot does not appear until 'the Matter of Britain' had
> >> >become a European literary tradition, so to equate him with something
> Celtic is
> >> >just not on.
> >> >
> >> >Mark Handley, Trinity Hall, Cambridge.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Does it mean, Mark, that whatever came from 'Europe' -WE say the continent-
> >> is not Celtic for you?
> >> Lancelot IS a Celtic figure whether you like it or not, giving no matter
> >> where he came from : the imagination of some scholar or the legends.
> >> Have a good day Mark.:-)
> >> Marc
> >Do you care to give reasons for your argument, Marc? Mark did...
> As a matter of fact, Raghnall, I didn't think I needed reasons to argue that
> Continental Europe may be as Celtic as The Isles when we consider the Matter
> of Britain.
> I may be wrong but I have felt a tendancy on this list to consider Celtic
> only what came from Ireland, Wales or Scotland. That is not the case even
> though the most vivid vestiges we have concerning the Celts often come from
> Do you consider my reasons displayed enough, Raghnall?
> I can develop if you wish.
> Marc Morales
> [log in to unmask]
> Dia Dhuit uile
> A wolf can act but like a wolf
So then, "Gaul," after having been conquered, settled and ruled by Romans
and Franks for centuries, and after the Gaulish language had been long
extinct, retained enough of its Celtic flavor that anything produced in
France, even by men of Germanic origin, should be considered Celtic? Please
develop this, and tell us
whether or not you also consider literature from modern "Galatia" to be