On Feb 2, 5:33pm, Iain Barksdale wrote:
> >Ireland stopped being Celtic from about the 13th
> >century and started being Irish.
> What do you define as being Irish vs. being Celtic? And why do you choose
> the 13th century, and not, let's say, when Ireland was Christianised?
It's an interesting point in time, it seems to me.
About this time, the Brythonic-speaking areas finally fall under the
control of others (mostly Normans). Scotland falls under Norman
influence with other areas in the hands of Viking successors. In
Ireland the hi kingship falls into abeyance, the Viking struggle is
over but the Normans arrive & carve up statelets, bringing in new
continental influences. The Celtic church finally gives out. The
modern Irish language emerges. The long struggle with England begins,
thru her Norman kings & Norman adventurers. Gaelic Ireland seems to
be cut off from much communication with the British Celts at this
point. In the rest of Europe, the vernaculars start appearing
in writing replacing Latin. The Anglo-Saxon literary language
is suppressed & disappears. The modern states start to appear.