I sent this almost a week ago, but it seems some people didn't read it.
Lancelot is NOT the linguistic equivalent of Lug Lamhcalad, every element
in these two names is different. They are not once and the same person, I
don't know how else to say it.
So here we go again.
Lancelot du Lac = Lug Lamhcalad
OK, well first of all I can't see how the name Lug becomes of the lake,
different spot in the name, one at the end the other at the beginning, if
Lug were the name they were trying to modernise then it would seem
reasonable to expect this in the name at least rather than in the
Secondly; Lug was the sun-god of the Celts, nothing to do with lakes or
oceans, his name appears from Iron age 'magical' inscriptions from Gaul
as Lugus, then in Irish as Lugh and in Welsh as Lleu. In other words he
does not appear as Lancelot, we have the 'modern' version of his name.
With the lamh = lan thing, well unfortunately the letters 'mh' in Irish
correspond to the English letter 'v' as far as sound is concerned, so the
apparent similarity with 'Lan' is not in fact real, they come from
completely different sources. Lav does not equal lan.
Celot = calad? No it doesn't. Of the five sounds represented by Calad
four of them do
not appear in 'celot'. The hard 'c' of calad is not found in Lancelot,
making those sounds not correspond. Calad had originally come from the
word 'caleti', so the 'a' has always been an 'a' and not an 'e'. The 'l'
is admittedly the same in both words. The 'e' of caleti had changed
through affection to an 'a' - perfectly normal - but it was never an 'o'
as it would have to be for it to bear any resemblance to 'celot'. The 't'
of caleti has been lenited, or softened to a 'd' in calad, it does not
then harden again to be a 't' as it would have to.
I hope this all makes sense. Lan does not equal lamh
celot does not equal calad
Lac does not equal Lug.
Lancelot is not therefore a later version of this figure, and he does not
belong in any repetoire of Celtic figures, he was an invention of the
12th century frenchman Chretien de Troyes.
Unless you can come up with reasons why the above is incorrect, you
should stop making an equation of Lug with Lancelot.
As far as Lucius and Lug is concerned, well one is a perfectly normal
Latin name, and another is a name of a Celtic God/myth figure, I'm not
sure that just because you think they sound similiar that anything
should be made of this. The origins of these two names are completely
This having been said, at least you're not talking about Pat Buchannan
Mark Handley, Trinity Hall, Cambridge.
P.S. I'm not sure that I'm a DARK AGE expert, but I am doing my PhD on
the early medieval inscriptions of the Insular Celts.