At 03:52 PM 2/22/96 -0500, you wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Marc Morales wrote:
>> I didn't claim that *anything* produced in France should be considered
>> I only wish that people keep in mind that not only The British Isles can be
>> considered as Celtic.
>> Allow me to say that I do think that a Celtic substrat remained in France
>> even after the Roman Conquest, etc..
>> But... if you prefer to think that only Ireland, Scotland and Wales are
>> truly Celtic...well who am I to try and change that.
>> I only find it sectarian and sad when some of us are involved in Celtic
>> Unity or Pan-Celtic Gathering.
>> What is Mark point of view about that?
>> Marc Morales
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>> Dia Dhuit uile
>> A wolf can act but like a wolf
>I'm sorry. I must have missed part of this argument. Here is what I
>1. Mark argued that Lancelot is not a Celtic creation.
>2. You said that Lancelot is a Celtic creation, whether Mark wants to
>believe it or not.
>3. I asked why you say that Lancelot is a Celtic creation; I have no
>strong thoughts either way, as I know too little about the topic.
>4. You replied "I didn't think I needed reasons to argue that
>Continental Europe may be as Celtic as the Isles when we consider The
>Matter of Britain."
>5. As it is my understanding that this work was produced in the second
>millenium of this era, I asked how the products of contemporary French
>aristocratic culture could still be considered Celtic.
>I am confused by your reply to this, and I presume that it is my own
>fault. I've missed something in the argument, or have perhaps
>misinterpreted something. At any rate, please reorient me.
>As for Pan-Celtic Gathering, I fully support it as encompassed by
>Pan-Human Gathering. The various Celtic cultures are not threatened by a
>lack of Celtic unity, but rather by the general lack of concern for other
>cultures that permeates most of our world.
>(who dreams of a day when the concept of individuality becomes reality)
I'm afraid you haven't missed anything, Raghnall. I just don't think Marc
has explained himself very well at all.
Marc, no one has denied that elements coming from Continental Europe might
still be Celtic, but you've yet to say *what* material coming from "the
Continent" you consider to be Celtic and on what grounds.
who figured out that since North Mythology came from Continental Europe, by
your argument that things from Continental Europe can't be discounted as
Celtic, we can now claim that Beowoulf should be the National Hero of Scotland.