> But back to Ireland for a moment, for one of my pet subjects - the
> Five Invasions, from Leabhar Gabhala Erin. In this mythology the
> ancestors of the Milesians/Goidels/Q-Celtic peoples are said to be the
> Nemedians, who are supposed to have arrived in Ireland *before* the
> Fir Bolgs (ie, the P-Celts). However, O'Rahilly and others now state
> that the whole Invasion mythology, along with most of the so-called
> "genealogies" of descent of the Milesians, was fabricated in this way
> in order to give credence to the idea that the Gaels had a stronger,
> more ancient claim on the land of Ireland.
I've never heard that theory before. It's definitely an
interesting one. I've been studying my Welsh background recently and one
of the questions that came up was the origins of the Pretani from a
mythological POV. I recall reading that Nemed's descendants split into
three groups, the Tuatha, the Fir Bolgs and the descendants of Fergus
Half-Red. It never crossed my mind that the Pretani were the Fir Bolgs.
Sorry to go off-track but what do you think of the Houses of Don
and Llyr from the Mabinogion? Don is obviously Dana and many other
crossovers exist as well. Kinda funny that the Fir Bolgs would come to
revere the Tuatha da Danann. What do you think happened to Fergus?
> If anyone is interested, there is an article coming out on
> this subject, by Helen McSkimming, in the August issue of our
> society's magazine.
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I'm a little surprised here. I've been to the Dalriada site and it
was 98% Gaelic so I never bothered with it (I'll focus on the Gaels when
I understand the Pretanic better). I have no real knowledge on this
subject. My only real view of the Milesians was from Morgan Llewellyn's
"Bard". In what time period did the Milesians travel to Ireland? I also
thought that Gaelic was the older version of the Celtic (hard C) language
but I'd heard that Cymric was closer to Gaulic than Gaelic was. Needless
to say, I'm confused. Hope you can help.