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IRTRAD-L June 1994

Subject:

Re: Ash Grove Lyrics

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Wed, 15 Jun 1994 18:59:04 EDT

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>  From: Andrea Wolfe <[log in to unmask]>
>  Subject:      Ash Grove Lyrics
>
>  Can anyone provide me with the lyrics for "The Ash Grove" -- pretty please?
 
From the annals of rec.music.folk on the internet
(there aren't really any annals, isn't really any archive; these are just
files I saved)
 
(reprinted without permission from the other participants, so don't blame
them)
-------------------------------------------------------------------
 
If you want the nice lyrics:
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From das-news.harvard.edu!endor!jmf Mon Oct 11 12:28:35 EDT 1993
Article: 20157 of rec.music.folk
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Path: das-news.harvard.edu!endor!jmf
From: [log in to unmask] ( ghost )
Subject: Re: Ash Grove lyrics redux: urgent need!
 
this is the version I learned as a child:
 
Down yonder green valley where streamlets meander
When twilight is fading I pensively roam
Or at the bright noontide in solitude wander
Amid the dark shades of the lonely ashgrove *
Tis there where the blackbird is cheerfully singing
Each warbler enchants with his notes from a tree   **
And then little think I of sorrow or sadness
The ashgrove, the ashgrove
Spells beauty for me
 
*It could also be "lovely ashgrove" without much loss in meaning.
 
** a very logical phrase that always struck me as funny, somehow,
   even though they *don't* usually sing on the ground;
   maybe its the way the line is sung out so adamantly
 
   <reading could also be
    "each warbler enchants with each note from a tree">
 
I don't think this version is horrible, so hope its the other one
Robin Huw Bowen (Welsh triple-harp player) thinks is.
 
Does anyone know the 2nd verse to my version?
I never learned more than one via the f-p, but have read a (non-horrible?)
2nd verse to go along with this one somewhere.
 
I though it was here, but I didn't save it for some reason.
(Reason may be I had saved old horrible version by mistake.)
I can also picture sheet music with 2 verses, though, as always when
I remember these things so clearly, I can't read the damn paper.
Big help in school, this was.
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<in response to my request for 2nd verse>
 
From das-news.harvard.edu!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!butch!zuni.litc.lockheed.com!westphal Tue Oct 12 17:07:06 EDT 1993
Article: 20262 of rec.music.folk
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: [log in to unmask] (Dorothy Westphal)
Subject: Re: Ash Grove lyrics redux: urgent need!
Organization: Information Technology Company
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 19:19:59 GMT
 
 
My laughter is over my step loses lightness
Old countryside measures steal soft on my ear
I only remember the past and its brightness;
the dear ones i long for again gather here.
from out of the shadow their loving looks greet me
and wistfully searching the leafy green dome
I find other faces fond bending to greet me
the ash grove the ash grove alone is my home.
------------------------------------------------------
 
Or, if you want those truly horrible lyrics that start the same:
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From das.harvard.edu!hsdndev!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!uicvm.uic.edu!u40643 Fri Sep 20 23:59:18 EDT 1991
Article: 1355 of rec.music.folk
From: [log in to unmask] (Ty Warner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: The Ash Grove in Welsh
Date: 20 Sep 91 18:31:31 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
 
(In response to a previous question on Welsh words and history of said song...)
 
 
>From "_FAMOUS SONGS OF WALES 1_" ("_CANEUON ENWOG CYMRU_")
c1987 GWYNN, Penygroes, Caernarfon, Gwynedd LL54 6DB
(Tel: 0286 881797)
 
LLWYN ONN (The Ash Grove)
-------------------------
 
1. Yn Nyffryn Llwyn Onn draw mi welais hardd feinwen
   A minnau'n hamddena 'rl byw ar y don;
   Gwyn ewyn y lli oedd ei gwisg, a disgleirwen
   A'r glasfor oedd llygaid Gwen harddaf Llwyn Onn.
   A ninnau'n rhodiana drwy'r lonydd i'r banna,
   Sibrydem i'n gilydd gyfrinach byd serch;
   A phan ddaeth hi'n adeg ffarwelio 'r wiwdeg,
   Roedd tannau fy nghalon yng ngofal y ferch.
 
   [Down yonder green valley where streamlets meander
    When twighlight is fading I pensively rove;
    Or at the bright moontide in solitude wander,
    Amid the dark shades of the lonely Ash Grove;
   'Twas there, while the blackbird was cheerfully singing,
    I first met that dear one the joy of my heart!
    Around us for gladness the bluebells were ringing,
    Ah! then little thought I how soon we should part.]
 
2. Cyn dychwel i borthladd wynebwn y tonnau,
   Ond hyfryd yw'r hafan 'rl dicter y don;
   Bydd melys anghofio her greulon y creigiau --
   Un felly o'wn innau 'rl cyrraedd Llwyn Onn.
   A thawel mordwyo wnaf mwyach  Gwenno
   Yn llong fach ein bwthyn a hi wrth y llyw;
   A hon fydd yr hafan ddiogel a chryno
   I'r morwr a'i Wenno tra byddwn ni byw.
 
   [Still glows the bright sunshine o'er valley and mountain,
    Still warbles the blackbird its note from the tree;
    Still trembles the moonbeam on streamlet and fountain,
    But what are the beauties of Nature to me?
    With sorrow, deep sorrow, my bosom is laden,
    All day I go mourning in search of my love!
    Ye echoes! oh tell me, where is the sweet maiden?
   "She sleeps 'neath the green turf down by the Ash Grove."]
 
 
The book gives the following commentary:
 
"   This is a very old harp melody and was first published
without words by Edward Jones (The King's Harpist) in _THE BARDIC
MUSEUMS_ in 1802.  It was published with words, probably some
four years later, in _WELSH MELODIES WITH APPROPRIATE ENGLISH
WORDS_.
"   Some authorities maintain that it was originally a dance
tune.  If that is so, it does not appear to be as old as some of
the well-known traditional folk dances, as the minuet time is of
a later period, originating in 18th Century France.
"   During this century it has been a popular counter-melody for
that unique Welsh practice of Penillion singing.
"   The Welsh words used here are of recent date, relating a
sailor's love for Gwen of Llwyn Onn.  Oliphant's English words,
however, end with sadness, relating the death of the loved one."

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