In message "CELTIC-L - The Celtic Culture List." M. Newton writes:
> However, it was the norm that people sang wherever they were and whatever
> they were doing. The family sang together at night while the women did
> the weaving/spinning/sewing/etc, the men made the nets and ropes, etc. This
> was all done naturally and spontaneously, and the songs and poetry reflected
> the feelings and identity of the community as a whole -- there was no
> such thing as a celebrity or star -- people sang for the emotional release
> and the meaning of the words, not as a "performer", nor even as an
> individual "artist". The emphasis was not on it as an aesthetic
> experience but as communal cohesion and celebration of common values.
Yeah...lots of cultures actually have this kind of thing. I think a great
example is the Gorallia in southern Poland along the Tatra mountains.
Definitely different because the mazurka rhythm is the way they go...but still a
lot of spinning around and libations, etc. Going to a prty of this kind is like
entering astronaut training or something.
> Please note how different the scale and nature of traditional Celtic
> music differs from modern modes of music: in the modern world people are
> passive consumers of culture; the "market" defines what is available
> and which styles live and die; the emphasis is on quantity; the music
> is not the unique possession and identity of anybody but those who
> buy it; modern musicians and "artists" are larger than life and
> overshadow the music itself.
Definitely gotta disagree with ya Michael. I'm in band right here in
Minneapolis and I'm not "larger" than my music at all. Consumerism may
determine what you can buy off a record shelf...but heyt that's why you gotta
get out and see your local acts and get a taste of what's really going on. If
you want to see what's going on in the art world...don't go to a museum, go to
the galleries. Heck..Ireland in particular is running over with great
music..and sometimes really different...it's just that you gotta be a consumer
and support struggling acts. As for music being the unique possesion of those
who buy it...uhm...seems like some cultures can claim to their own musical
forms...and then again who else sounds like Tom Waits?
> All of these values are directly opposite from traditional cultural
> contexts in which music and the oral tradition were key factors.
No...it's just the story changes...and the mood. Look at how songs like "run
Through The Jungle" and "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" came to have social
implications for us folks in the United States. Then there's all the punk
stuff, and then I can go back to political stuff in the 40's like "(raspberry)
to the Fuhrer."
> And its a very example of why I think indigenous cultures are more
> sane and desirable than industrial modes of living.
Yeah...we've been down this road before.
> My opposition is for the need of *any* dominance of any Empire, via
> weapons or economic control. The ideal world would be one in which small
> groups of localised people consumed and managed only their own local
> resources, and were in autonomous control of their own identity, land,
> language, culture and lives -- and surprise, it's the way in which all
> indigenous pre-industrial people lived!
So get out and see your local indigenous blues..rock...whatever bands folks! We
need ya and you need us!
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