On Tue, 8 Feb 1994, Michael Durkan wrote:
> >| Excuse this son of the Welsh, but Patrick was a Welshman, be not so loose
> >| with your attributions, please.
> > Patrick seems to have been from what is now Dumbarton in Strathclyde,
> >Scotland, at a time when this was an independent Brythonic-speaking
> >kingdom. Later many of these people fled to Wales. And Welsh is the
> >surviving tongue of the parent family which was spoken here. So in that
> >broad sense, one might say that Patrick was Welsh.
> Has Bannavem Taberniae, Patrick's birthplace according to his Confessio,
> been identified?
From my reading, I don't think that Bannavem Taberiae has been
identified. I suspect that it was south of Hadrian's Wall because,
Patrick's family obviously lived in a "Romanized" community. His father
was a decurion and Bannavem Taberniae is refered to in "Confessio" as a
vicus, which would be smaller than a "colonia" but neverthe less a decent
sized place. I'd place it in Wales, assuming close access to the sea for
those Irish raiders that attacked his home when he was a teen.
Dennis Doyle <[log in to unmask]>