On 12 Jan 2012 at 22:06, Dennis King wrote:
> > Danae Dee nis frithchoirthi selba forru niscorthi
> > attoberthar na gabae sech nit muide nud chele
> I assume that we're looking at the same ·coirthi (= ·corthae, etc.) in
> both finite verbs, a 3rd sg. passive past subjunctive. The 3rd pl.
> infixed pronoun "-s-" (= them) is attached to both following the
> negative particle.
If this were OIr., no infixed pronoun should be present in a 3pl.
Taking into account that the final vowel may stand for mere schwa,
the forn could rather be 2nd sg. past subj. "you should not reject
them", with a resumptive pronoun referring to the noun that
immediately precedes the verb.
> The verb "attoberthar" looks like the 3rd sg. passive present
> subjunctive of "as·beir" with an infixed 3rd pl. pronoun -ta-, thus
> something like "one ought to say them". Perhaps, with reference to
> the gifts, "one ought to acknowledge them".
I rather think of "ad·opair" (to offer, sacrifice)..
Or could it be a very odd spelling for "a ndo·berthar" = "that which
is given (i.e. to you)"
> The following "na gabae" could be the 2nd sg. present subjunctive of
> "gaibid" preceded by the negative particle "ná", which normally goes
> with the imperative, not the jussive subjunctive... but what the
> heck? Anyway, possibly "you should not take".
Or "na" could stand for "no·": "it ought to be offered up (that
which) you may take/get"
> sech = other than, more than, beyond, rather than
> I'm going to skip "nit muide" since I don't recognize "muide".
There is a noun "muide" "vessel", but that doesn't fit. I was
wondering if it could be a comparative + "de", i.e. "mó(i)te" in
> The final "nud chele" might be the negative leniting relative particle
> "nad" with "cele", the 2nd sg. present subjunctive of "ce(i)lid =
> conceals", perhaps "that you ought not conceal".
Or again "no·" with an expletive neuter infixed pronoun which can
work as a kind of relative marker in MIr.
sech nit muide nud chele = "beyond (= in addition to) which, you are
not the greater from what you conceal".