On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Janet Crawford <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> The Nenagh als. Gaethach River formed the boundary between Ara Tire
> and Muscraige Tire. Muscraige Tire would have been in Thomond, but if
> one were to place it now, it would be all of Lower Ormond and part of
> Upper Ormond.
> Thanks for that.
Since we seem to be talking about places all around Lough Derg
> suddenly, there may be reason to associate Glen Gerg with Lough Derg.
Ah, now we have to be careful here, because there are two different lakes
called Lough Derg today. One is the very big one, the last lake the Shannon
flows through before arriving at the Atlantic. It was formerly called L.
Dergderc. This is the one that Ui Maine's allies live near, the one that
Lower Ormond flanks.
The other Lough Derg is a small lake way up in Donegal: St. Patrick went
into a cave on an island there and saw visions of Purgatory. It became a
very famous place of pilgrimage in the middle ages, drawing pilgrims from
the continent and as far abroad as Hungary. This is the one which I have
found referred to as L. Gercc, and it is the one with associated with St.
Dabeoc, an obscure saint mentioned by Hogan in his entry on Glenn Gercc.
I do appreciate your gesture of support, though.
all the best,