On 27 Jul 2011 at 12:20, Christopher Gwinn wrote:
> > If you look at all the places that contain "Inis", it won't look as
> > odd any more.
> I am sure that I understand what you mean.
I assume you meant that you were NOT sure what I meant. And yes, my
reply was so short as to border on crypticism. What I meant was that
"inis" = "island" can be applied to a wide range of places, including
many inland places, so I wouldn't be overly concerned if an element
like emain/emne was applied to topographically quite diverse places.
> > Of course, they could contain the etymon as well, in which case my
> > theory would be flawed. But most of them contain the stem iemurio-,
> > which - to judge by its usage - looks more like a kind of ethnonym.
> > To be honest, I don't know. In any case, the formation would be very
> > different from that required by OIr. emon anyway.
> They could come from the same root as your *imno-, though, if your
> root is the zero-grade, no?
Oh yes, definitly. That's the idea.
> Have you read Hamp's discussion of emon in "Varia I: 6. An ancient
> Indo-European idiom", Eriu 24, 1973, pp. 172-174? He makes a couple
> interesting points:
No, I hadn't seen it before.
> [p. 172] "Pokorny (IEW 505) has an entry *iem 'halten', *iemo-
In LIV2 312, the two roots are separated (following EWAia II 399-
400), and the meaning of the verbal root is defined not as "halten",
but as "ausstrecken, hinstrecken".
> Middle Irish emon (masc.) is said to be *emno-,
My point is that so far everybody simply assumed that emon had to be
*(y)emno-. But actually, it could just as easily be *imno-, and under
this assumption Gaulish and British forms can be compared (which
doesn't necessarily prove that they are actually related, of course).
> Then Germanic *ibna- 'even' is adduced; this
> looks dubious, even irrelevant.
Not quite. There is a long article by Stefan Schaffner on this word,
and he argues that it is *emno-, which he compares with OInd. amna-.
The article appeared in the proceedings of the Arbeitstagung of the
Indogermanische Gesellschaft in Erlangen (1997, if I am not