The latest on *krumbo-, *krundi/o- is an article by Irene Balles in the
journal Die Sprache 48 (2009), 20-26, entitled "Lang, rund und krumm: zu
einigen indogermanischen Zusammenbildungen". She proposes an IE etymology
for those Celtic words (against Matasovic 2009) who considered them
substrate words, but she denies any relationship, by inheritance or
borrowing, between Celt. *krumbo- and Germ. *krumba-, but says that the
similarity is by chance.
On Sa, 11.12.2010, 05:26, John Bonsing wrote:
> Had a look at Macbain's that seems to provide an explanation:
> bent, Irish Early Irish crom, Old Irish cromm, Welsh crwm, Breton
> Old Breton crum, krumbo-; from the same root as cruinn?
> and thence:
> round, so Irish, Old Irish cruind, Welsh crwn, Breton krenn,
> root kuro-, circle, turn, as in car, q.v. Cf. Latin curvus; Greek
> bunt, @Gkorw/nc, ring, Latin corona, English crown. Bezzenberger cfs. the
> form crundi- from kur to Latin rotundus from rota.
> There seems to have been previous debate about this, as it indicated by:
> The Anglo-Saxon crumb, crooked, English crumple, German krumm, have been
> compared, and borrowing alleged, some holding that the Teutons borrowed
> the Celts, and vice versa. Dr Stokes holds that the Celts are the
> The Teutonic and Celtic words do not seem to be connected at all in
> It is an accidental coincidence, which is bound to happen sometimes, and
> wonder is it does not happen oftener.
> intriguing to see:
> measure the length of the middle finger, Irish cruma, cromadh; from
> kite, hawk, from crom.