On the armed king, it is interesting to read on http://mythicalireland.com/
that Orion is referred to as 'Caomai, , or the armed king'; a squiz at
caomhain: spare, save, caomhnadh, sparing, Irish caoimhnaim, preserve, keep,
protect, caomhaighim, caomhnuighim, preserve. and that it may derive from
caomh: tender, kind, so Irish, Early Irish coem, Old Irish cóim, Welsh cu,
I'm intrigued by the warrior - protector as in a king or hero, and a service
- protector, such as Dichu, steward to the Dagda (and Angus). The "caomai"
seems to imply both roles...
Note also on the naming thing that the personal name Eochaid O Uathair was
that of the Dagda - so the habit of a divine-name as well as a personal name
is quite an established one :) (a 'cognate habit'? of IE)
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:40:42 +0000, Marion Gunn <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>ScrÃobh 10/12/2010 15:08, Helen McKay:
>> I suddenly have a picture of that odd statue today kept in the cathedral
>> at Armagh of the man holding his arm - usually thought to be Nuada,
>You could have something interesting there, Helen. When first I saw that
>image, I could not reconcile it with my own image of Nuada.
>> but what if its Dichu.... hounds, arms, swords, Nuada, Nodens, Orion,
>> well the first convert of Patrick would surely be someone of
>> mythological significance,
>How strong are Dichu's connections with Armagh. Patrick was a swineherd.
>Dichu I thought was his master, but I could be wrong about that, so it
>would be great if the renditions of tales referred to here could be
>accompanied by book refs (yes, I know that is not always possible, but
>reputable sources need to be distinguished from disrep.).
>> who better than the king of the TDD??? And
>> in the Fenian tales, Eithne is the wife of Nuada, and in other tales the
>> wife of Elcmar...
>Fenian tales are generally thought to be later, but they would be the
>ones we grew up with.