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Subject: Re: Ó hAoláin 7 Ó Faoláin
From: Marion Gunn <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Scholars and students of Old Irish <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:47:54 +0100

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Scríobh Liz Gabay:
> Hi Marion,
>      Here in America, the priest who baptized me (in the 1950s) was 
> Father Whelan, pronounced like English 'whale in'.  

That is common enough here, although I think "education" has more or 
less succeded in stamping it out. :-)
>    Here's what MacLysaght in "Surnames of Ireland" has to say:

Yes, I know. Am still hoping for a source beyond that. I used to have an 
office elsewhere, so have two copies of MacLysaght, both paperback sixth 
editions, not worth anything more than their contents. If anyone 
supplies a strong enough reason, via [log in to unmask], 
[log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask], for 
wanting to give my spare copy a home, they can have it.

One good reason, of course, would be to point me to a source beyond 
MacLysaght, Woulfe or the usuals.

> "(O) Whelan Ó Faoláin (faol, wolf).  A variant of Phelan numerous in the 
> country between Co. Tipperary and Co. Wexford.  Whelan is also 
> sometimes an abbreviation of Whelehan and occasionally a synonym of 
> Hyland.  Whelan is rare in Ulster: for its provenance there see under 
> Phelan."
> "(O) Phelan Ó Faoláin (faol, wolf).  One of the principal septs of the 
> Southeast. Before the Norman invasion their chief was Prince of the 
> Decies.  In West Ulster it is Ó Fialáin a distinct bardic family."
> "(O) Whelehan Ó Faoileacháin (perhaps from Faoileach, joyful).  A 
> Westmeath name.  Helehan is a Munster variant."     Liz

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