My strategy for retrieving this examples, is simply that I've been compiling large databases of them for the last 3 years. They're useful for when I want to make a point in my thesis or eventually write a few papers.
As for the 'tríar manach do-rat' example ... the reason why I wasn't sure this was a nominativus pendens is that it's been my hunch (and only my hunch) that nominativus pendens is usually used to express 'topicalization'... stuff having to do with discourse old information. Sort of like an English sentence that has 'As for that guy...' 'Well, given that situation...' etc.
Discourse new information (or contrastive information) also known as 'focus' seems to be commonly expressed by cleft sentences. That's why I would have classified the 'tríar manach...' sentence as a reduced cleft (i.e. cleft with copula dropping) - since it's at the beginning of the discourse. It is presentational saying 'there were three monks'.
Of course, I need a whole lot more nominativus pendens examples with their contexts before I actually believe this in its entirety.
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Elliott Lash wrote:
> a) The use of do-gni + VN is attested rather early in Irish. I remember seeing a few examples from Saltair na Rann
Do you have a personal strategy for retrieving examples "once seen" like that? Cuireann rudaí mar sin mo chiall ar mo mhuin dom! It would be great to see them, though.
> David's description of nominativus pendens is right, but I don't see how the sentence given fits with it.
> Tríar manach do·rat díultad dont saegul.
> This doesn't have the requisite pronominal element, does it? Wouldn't we perhaps expect the following?
> Tríar manach do·rat-som díultad dont saegul.
What do you think "tríar manach do·rat" is, syntactically?