I certainly hope the members of this community would not accept that
job. If they did, I would immediately remove myself.
On Dec 4, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Roger Harnden wrote:
> This follows an interaction with Allenna,
> Models may well be neutral, but social systems aren't. Some are
> geared to torture individuals prior to any legal process in places
> like Guatanamo Bay; others are geared to support the vulnerable.
> These two social forms are DIFFERENT and loaded with VALUES.
> From the standpoint of the US administration (as is made clear from
> the very recent confessions of the ex-interrogator), a 'more
> effective' Guatanamo Bay would process the captives in way that
> helps deliver to the US administration its requirement to justify
> the rape a sovereign country n the pursuit of its own economic and
> political advantage. And, should one of us have been so 'lucky' as
> to be approached by the then US administration, i am sure we could
> readily apply the VSM to achieve that goal.
> Therefore, might we not ask 'Is there any reason why the members of
> this community (Metaphorum) would not accept that job?'
> Well, is there?????
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