Yes, Roger, there is a reason not to cooperate with them:
Because if we are supporting the VSM is because it too has a set of
values or PRINCIPLES in which we believe and one of them is the belief
that to have viability we need "maximum autonomy" which can be
translated into the "right to self-determine" that individuals have.
It is not to extreme to affirm that the VSM basically believes in
human rights as contained in several international agreements which
are THE LAW inside the adopting countries.
On Dec 4, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Roger Harnden wrote:
> This follows an interaction with Allenna,
> Models may well be neutral, but social systems aren't. Some are
> geared to torture individuals prior to any legal process in places
> like Guatanamo Bay; others are geared to support the vulnerable.
> These two social forms are DIFFERENT and loaded with VALUES.
> From the standpoint of the US administration (as is made clear from
> the very recent confessions of the ex-interrogator), a 'more
> effective' Guatanamo Bay would process the captives in way that
> helps deliver to the US administration its requirement to justify
> the rape a sovereign country n the pursuit of its own economic and
> political advantage. And, should one of us have been so 'lucky' as
> to be approached by the then US administration, i am sure we could
> readily apply the VSM to achieve that goal.
> Therefore, might we not ask 'Is there any reason why the members of
> this community (Metaphorum) would not accept that job?'
> Well, is there?????
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