I work as an anthropologist, in field ethnography, for the past 20 years
carrying out precisely this work of developing indicators in both the
social and environmental spheres. To me the two are inseparable and
mutually defining. On that basis I rewrote the entire history of the
southwest of Western Australia to incorporate the Celtic Diaspora
previously written out of the narrative by the English colonial powers.
In all that time there is one single indicator of Celticness that stands
out above everything else, including genes, language, economy, social
organisation, all the rest of it.
That one single indicator is our obsession with genealogy. It is at the
root of everything we do and say and think.
This exchange cited here below is a classic example.
Kenneth Smith wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- >
>> Maidin mhaith Chionaiodh
>> I think, the key word in your statement above is 'if'.
>> R1b1c10 'may' be the marker for identifying the Celts,
>> however, this runs the risk for genetically defining
>> culture, which I dont think is possible for several
>> reasons. Language is a key indicator of culture- or at
>> least was at one time. In some cases, esp. here in the
>> West, I am not sure one could entirely say that
>> language is a key cultural indicator.
> But I think we all agree that language is a key cultural indicator,
> though of course not absolute, even while not an ethnic indicator.
> And it appears there is some R1b1c10, now re-classified as R1b1b2h in
> the new haplotype tree, found among at least the O'Nolans of Ireland:
> That page contains a very good discussion.
> Also, no geneticist that I know states that language is pre-determined
> by one's DNA. It is only an indicator of the individual's population.
> What many do not realize, however, is that the ancient tribal groups
> can to some degree be understood by their DNA.
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