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> Maidin mhaith Chionaiodh
> I think, the key word in your statement above is 'if'.
> R1b1c10 'may' be the marker for identifying the Celts,
> however, this runs the risk for genetically defining
> culture, which I dont think is possible for several
> reasons. Language is a key indicator of culture- or at
> least was at one time. In some cases, esp. here in the
> West, I am not sure one could entirely say that
> language is a key cultural indicator.
But I think we all agree that language is a key cultural
indicator, though of course not absolute, even while not an ethnic
And it appears there is some R1b1c10, now re-classified as R1b1b2h
in the new haplotype tree, found among at least the O'Nolans of
That page contains a very good discussion.
Also, no geneticist that I know states that language is
pre-determined by one's DNA. It is only an indicator of the
individual's population. What many do not realize, however, is
that the ancient tribal groups can to some degree be understood by
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