Thank you very much for the reference Kenneth. I am
going to spend some time reading through several of
the articles on the site you referenced, and then
re-frame my question.
--- Kenneth Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Well that much is currently in doubt, whether the
> Celts are
> invaders who only appeared in the iron age or are
> aboriginal to
> the commonly known "British Isles."
> I refer the list to a genetic and anthropological
> study at
> <http:www.bobhay.net>, select the link for .U3A
> courses, then the
> link for "Genes, Genealogy, and the Migrations of
> Man." One of the
> downloadable course lectures is "The Nation Which
> Never Was: Celts
> and The Making of a Modern Myth" referring to the
> great expanse of
> land which the tribal Celtic peoples inhabited yet
> without any
> unifying institutions other than those of language,
> religion, and
> tribal structure.
> I am not sure what kind, if any, mtDNA is identified
> as "celtic."
> H is prevalent in western Europe, followed by U in
> frequencies the further north one goes (e.g.,
> Scandinavia), and
> others in smaller percentages. So depending on whose
> studies you
> cite, there is either no Celtic dna of either type
> y-chromosome or x-chromosome) in existence, or the
> DNA (X and Y)
> which exists is predominantly inherited from
> mesolithic Celtic
> ancestors who left the Iberian Ice refuge
> approximately 10-13,000
> I am strongly inclined to the latter view.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fhiona MacGhilleRhuadh"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > Kenneth wrote:
> > , it doesn't make sense, he states, for the R1b1
> > R1b1c of Ireland to simply adopt the language and
> > religion of the Proto-Celts leaving the Basque
> > language and religion.
> > In a related genetic text, it appears that the
> > percentage of mDNA in the British Isles, is not
> > at all, but traces back much earlier to the
> > people wandering about after the ice retreated.
> > Does anyone have any ideas or proposals to explain
> > the Iron Age Celtic culture became the dominant
> > culture of the British Isles while the genetics of
> > that culture did not become dominant throughout
> > populations already inhabiting the Isles prior to
> > rise of Celtic culture in the Iron Age? Could it
> > that, the cultures in the Isles extant with the
> > tinental Celts in the Iron Age borrowed Celtic
> > through trade and other social exchanges? Any
> > I am very interested to hear any ideas regarding
> > topic, as Raferty and others have posited that
> > craftmen copied La Tene style and made it uniquely
> > their own, which seems to suggest there was no
> > invasion or large scale immigration to the Isles
> > people we think of as Celts, at least in the way
> > which has been previously put forth by earlier
> > scholars.
> > (Sorry for lack of fadas in appropriate places, I
> > to re-set my language settings.)
> > Fiona
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