Using only the language as a factor they would be Québecoise, as they
speak québecoise -- which retains some similarities to 17th century
French. Using other factors, they would also be Irish to the degree that
they express that as part of their identity -- so that part of their
culture would be passed down in copied behaviour from their parents and/or
freely adopted by themselves.
I think it is interesting that the French mainly taught in Canada is
Parisian, and not québecoise.
> Hello All
> While standing in sub zero temperatures, having a
> smoke and pondering the discussion at hand, a random
> thought popped into my head, which may make for an
> interesting aside, pertaining to language, and
> culture-in which history also plays a part.
> During the Famine Years, many indigenous Irish (Gaelic
> speakers) were orphaned at sea while enroute to
> Canada. The port of landing was Montréal, which is in
> Québec, a French speaking province largely settled by
> people whose ancestors came from France- and English
> (who eventually dominated the French there politically
> and stayed to ensure the Queen's empirical/colonial
> interests-and French loyalties to the British crown).
> These orphaned children needed homes-none spoke
> French, some spoke only Irish, and others spoke both
> Irish and anglicized Irish dialect, a version of
> The francophone Canadiens let it be known they wished
> to adopt these children.
> The children however, were concerned about losing
> thier Irish identity.
> Ultimately, a Bill was passed in Parliament, allowing
> the children adopted by French families to keep thier
> Irish surnames. This Bill was passed before
> Confederation, and perhaps unwittingly laid the
> groundwork for Canada's later multicultural policies.
> Today, it is common to find people with Irish
> surnames, who are francophone in that they speak
> Québecois french dialect and are a part of the
> Québecois culture, but who view themselves as of Irish
> ancestry ie Irish Canadians.
> So. Based on language as a cultural marker, are the
> orphan descendents French? or Irish? or both?
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